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A.I. company Worldcoin has rolled out 1,500 Orbs to more than 35 cities in a bid to create digital identities for the world's citizens.

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[–] fearout@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I’ve been very interested in things like universal basic income and what’s going to happen to global wealth redistribution,” Sam Altman, Worldcoin’s cofounder

Holy crap it’s Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI. After that recent article about his $2 Kenyan workers it’s much harder to believe in benevolent intentions.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago

Any time someone creates a new coin instead of using the thousands available, it's 99.9% a scam. We don't need a new money supply for a UBI, this has been discussed to death in crypto circles for over a decade.

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just hell no. Sounds like a spray paint campaign is in order. I'm gonna go post this on the anarchy subs and see how they feel about it (unless you already got there first).

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Baseball bats sound more effective. Make ‘em eat the costs.

[–] Tibert@compuverse.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just hide your eyes or they'll scan you before you can beat the ball

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sunglasses and a mask are still totally fine to wear nowadays. Just walk up and pretend to trip.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, based on the pictures in the article this thing is basically a camera in a shiny ball about 1ft in diameter (it appears to be about the width of 3 bricks laid side by side). It's not like a Cloud Gate-sized object. To get a scan of your irises you would have to be pretty close to it for at least a few seconds - it's not like it could get a scan if you're just walking by a few feet away. You'd have to walk up and point your face at it on purpose. The camera in it also looks fixed - I doubt it can rotate to follow you, that would be mechanically complex, expensive and prone to failure.

Based on the description, their software takes an image of your irises and reduces it to a hash value. The original image is deleted (they claim) and the hash value is stored as an ID code. It seems likely that the hash value will be unique to their software - e.g. if you wrote your own code to produce hash values from images, you would get a different number even if you had the same picture of the same eyes. So the hash value doesn't necessarily represent anything about your eyes that would be much of a privacy invasion... It's just a mathematically derived number string which is unique to their software.

It's not clear what part of this system is "AI", though my guess would be it has something to do with re-identifying your eyes next time you want to access whatever is secured with your hash code. It's really not clear how that would work... a new image of your eyes collected a year later under different lighting conditions would probably produce a different hash value, so how does this system match them, if it only records the hashes?

FWIW, I think smashing or spray painting these things, while fun ideas in the rebellious teenager sense, is probably overkill and likely to get you more attention from law enforcement than you want. But, you could probably just walk up behind it and slap a sticker or tape over the camera... they'd still have to pay someone to go out and peel it off.

[–] jon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Taking a picture instantly after would probably create a different hash value. The thing about hashing is that even if one bit is different between source images, the resulting hashes would look entirely different.

I suppose I could conceive of a proprietary hash algorithm that would allow for fuzzy matching of iris photos, but as you said, eyes taken years apart in different conditions wouldn't match the original hash. Or falsely match similar looking eyes. It's not like this system allows them to get high resolution perfectly lit iris photos, after all.

The whole thing sounds dubious, and I suspect AI is mentioned solely to secure investor funding, much like how several years back everything mentioned Blockchain.

[–] StalksEveryone@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People trying to force social credit onto the free world.

[–] jonesy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Shiit, if you think about it, we kinda already have a social credit system in the US. It's less social I suppose, but does affect things that effect our social status, like being able to finance a car or house afforedably.