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I really do feel like I'm taking crazy pills with libs this election. The last two they at least had a bloodless rationale to the "lesser of two evils" rhetoric.

But this is genocide, the canonical Worst Thing You Can DO! I know many just believe that it's not a genocide at all because Palestinian civilians are all Hamas and just subhuman or that the videos published by official IOF channels are all deepfaked by the hungry ghost of Nasrallah. But then just FUCKING SAY IT and then we can call you a genocide denier and we'll know where we stand!

What I can't get is that many do seem to agree it's a genocide and Kamala is complicit. But then they lesser evil by going "Well if we don't vote then Trump will do bad things to trans people here."

Like Fuck You! You scheming, gaslighting bloody handed monster!

Either this is just a disingenuous argument to get your team in power or to maintain liberal civility politics, in which case double Fuck You that you think people are abstract political tools.

Or, you actually believe this, and the freedom of an LGBT person here outweighs the lives of 2 million people, many LGBT, who happen to have had the extreme misfortune to be born 5 cm over the border and thus outside your ability to feel empathy.

In which case Triple Fuck You, because you are, somehow, more of a fascist than Trump. At least Trump is too incoherent to make a complete argument for fascist policy!

I'm going mad, I really am. How can people be streamed genocide live on CNN and just say "well, I guess we're ok with genocide now!" Is the US public even human?! Even the fucking Germans had the good sense to pretend to look guilty after they lost.

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The part where it breaks down for me is that that they talk about all the hypothetical stuff the DNC will do but it is all just fantasy. It is always stuff the DNC has never done or given any indication they will do. When you ask them about it they always just switch to talking about the bad stuff the gop will do that the DNC will not stop at all.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Ok, so why aren’t you doing that now? You’ve been in power for 4 years, why haven’t you started to do that already or actually done it? Or if whatever cause truly matters to you, why aren’t you now working on preventing the Republicans from doing the bad thing if they get into power? Like you should have done enshrining roe vs wade which you didn’t do. Why are you doing nothing just to dangle the threat of the republicans over us?

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

qin-shi-huangdi-fireball on all democrat supporters

Amerikkka needs a JDPON

[–] arbitrary@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's JDPON? Searching brings up Maoism Third Worldism which I'm familiar with but I can't figure out what the actual acronym here is.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Joint Dictatorship of the Proletariat of Oppressed Nations

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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm an outsider and frankly I don't get the weird hostility to being critical of the dems.

Like if the election is so crucial isn't now the time to hold them over the barrel to try change them? you can vote or not as you please and it's all secret anyway so shouldn't you threaten them with a loss unless they change policy? Even if secretly you do intend to vote for them should the threats fail as some sort of lesser of two evils?

I don't get it at all. But then your politics always seemed a bit nuts to me anyway. Very high feelings over the person who will export war and misery over the whole world while crushing the working class, or the person who will export war and misery over the whole world while crushing the working class and also being more explicitly racist.

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[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ngl this is par for the course.

Americans literally cannot fathom shit that they cannot see directly in front of them. They know it's happening but ehhhhh it's somewhere else who cares. Nobody cares. Libs who say they care, but are still frothing to defeat orange guy say that they care, but they do not care. Americans didn't give a fuck about Iraq either.

I don't honestly see a "shift" or a "change" or anything different this election. Other than maybe democrats being actually a little more openly right wing with specific policies. Other than that this is just business as usual.

If I'm being real I don't even factor Palestine into either candidate, as they are both going to be genocidal freaks, and even if Palestine wasn't currently being eliminated, I wouldn't vote for these ghouls anyway. Domestically there's a couple differences. Foreign policy wise literally every politician in this trash country is holden-bloodfeast

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Americans literally cannot fathom shit that they cannot see directly in front of them.

One day missles will rain down on new york and the majority of the world wont shed a single tear

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[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Not really, when you realize most Americans have dogshit political opinions.

[–] WitchHazel@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Absolutely

I'm trans and she said she would "follow the law" when the law in my state says I can be discriminated on the basis of my transness, full stop.

Harm reduction is a lie comfortable people tell themselves.

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