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[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 8 points 1 hour ago

It would have been less humiliating for the zionist regime to have just apologized and did nothing.

I just want these fucking people to be able to live their lives. These genocidal freaks need their capacity for violence wrested from them because they are making hell on Earth by hurting vulnerable people - especially children.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 1 points 8 minutes ago

Seems like they did essentially 0 damage, thankfully for the people of Tehran. Apparently they might have hit an essentially empty rev guard training base lol.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 15 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

So good bye Gulf state/American oil refineries and hello potential oil crisis 2.0? or would this be an exaggeration?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 29 minutes ago

the american government has gone through great pains and effort to ensure that opec no longer has the leverage it did back in the 1970's.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It seems like it's a bit early to tell. Iran doesn't want to escalate, if these attacks are limited they might not up the ante, like last time.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago

presstv is playing this attack down, saying limited damage and their air defence did their jobs.

[–] BlackDragon@hexbear.net 19 points 2 hours ago

i was here when israel decided to go out guns blazing

[–] TonoManza@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 hours ago

US supported genocidal apartheid state opening up a 3rd front? Where have I seen that before?

Nuke norway

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

CLIP from Terhan you can see flares from Air defense go up. Explosions in the air and hear bunch of pops.

Not going to know the extent of this for a bit and theres word a lot of misinfo going around, we're in the fog right now.

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[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 hours ago

Say the thing Bart!

There's no way this could end badly

Hurray!!

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

So like, this is the end of Israel yeah? I just don't see how the Israeli state can continue

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 43 minutes ago

They're really pushing it. Motivation wise I'm genuinely hoping it's dome Hitler style being bad at war but cynically, the mire fronts you open the more likely to get America directly involved.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago

Here we go again doggirl-sweat

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 88 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

i just woke up from the explosions what the hell

[–] khizuo@hexbear.net 4 points 36 minutes ago

Hope you're safe, comrade meow-hug

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 42 minutes ago
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 54 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago

thanks hopefully israel will fall and we don't have to worry about being bombed anymore.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 29 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck

I knew I shouldn't have wished to live in interesting times

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 17 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

It sort of bothers me how wishing works.

"I want something to be a little better."

Your suffering shall be immense

Like okay? Fuck you, asshole genie.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 5 points 59 minutes ago

That wasn't a genie, that was a god damn djinn!

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 7 points 1 hour ago

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago

Dump your Aramco stocks.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 57 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (9 children)

Does anyone here have a guess as to why Israel is trying to solo the entire ~~Arab world~~ Middle East in the middle of an ongoing colonial uprising?

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 11 points 1 hour ago

Israel doesn't solo anything. They are a hand of the US wearing a blue and white flag

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 43 minutes ago

The realpolitik ghoul reason would be that they're trying to start a big enough war that the only way the US can secure its interests in the region is to get directly involved, saving Israel from the consequences of its other aggressions.

But I don't think it's actually realpolitik ghouls in charge, I think they've just got nazis at the helm, and nazis think that all problems can be solved by attacking the weak, and all people are weaker than them.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 47 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I have used this example before: imagine you have a revolver with six bullets - they will become obsolete and unable to deal any damage to your enemy in 10 years.

While you only have a 10% chance of killing your enemies right now, it will be 1% in 10 years time.

What will you do?

Do you use those bullets now hoping to deal at least some lasting damage to your enemies, or do you hoard them until nobody is afraid of them anymore?

For Zionists, this will be the end of their ideology, the end of their ethnostate project. What becomes of Zionism when it comes to that? It makes sense they have to deal damage now than later.

(The bullets are US/Israeli air superiority, and what will make it obsolete are modern Russian air defense systems that once supplied to Iran, will end Western air supremacy altogether in the Middle East)

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sorry to be daft, but what's this Russia supplying Iran with air weapons thing?

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

After the Western sanctions on Russia during the start of the Ukraine war, Iran and Russia have moved much closer in military and technological cooperation and is currently very close to formalizing a comprehensive defense treaty between the two nations.

Iranian drones (Shahed) have already been used in Ukraine, and Russia has already obtained the licensing rights to manufacture their own domestic version (Geran-2), which has also been deployed on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Modern Russian air defense systems, in particular the S-400s, will neutralize NATO/Israeli air superiority against Iran.

The question is how fast Russia can manufacture these SAM batteries, since Russia already has its hands full at the moment. Ukraine, under the supervision of NATO, continues to lob rockets and missiles and launch drones into Russian territory (including along the Finnish-Russian border), which in turn forces Russia to deploy its air defense systems along vast stretch of its European border.

The delivery of the last two squadrons of S-400 that India ordered seven years ago, originally slated for delivery in 2023, had to be delayed until 2025. It’s clear that Russia is prioritizing its own air defenses against Ukraine and does not have the production level to export to other countries like Iran at the moment. So that will take years (also likely why NATO continues to force Russia to engage in Ukraine despite the fact that Ukraine can no longer win the war - it still serves its purpose of tying Russia from sending advanced military equipments to Iran and its allies in the Middle East).

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 54 minutes ago

Very cool and interesting. Thanks for the effort post.

including along the Finnish-Russian border

FFS nato-cool

[–] iie@hexbear.net 1 points 15 minutes ago

Modern Russian air defense systems, in particular the S-400s, will neutralize NATO/Israeli air superiority against Iran.

Is there something special about the technology, or is it just that Iran has poor air defense and generic tech would fix that?

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 48 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Iran isnt in the arab world

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 2 points 37 minutes ago

Yeah I'm already not looking forward to all the times I'm going to have to correct people referring to Iranians as "Arabs"

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The fuck, how did I just learn this today

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 36 points 3 hours ago

Darius the great has been obscuring your mind with magics beyond the grave

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 28 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 57 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can think of two possibilities:

  1. They're copying Nixon's "Madman Theory", where by being violent and unpredictable they can extract greater concessions from their opponents. This is your "De-Escalation through Escalation" they were talking about a while ago.
  2. Israel now views this as an existential conflict and is trying to disable their opponents while they still have enough munitions to do so.
[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 2 hours ago

I hope they lose

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 22 points 3 hours ago

because the US wants this -- gotta get WW3 nice and hot without having the blame

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