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[–] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 92 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

and yet, EU is preparing for the possibilty of trump win as the race is head to head and very tight. after months of clearly open racism, bigotry, hatred and fascism.

as an european, looking at millions of voters still not seeing a problem in that man, still giving his administration a vote, seems horrifying.

this is not a question of "racist joker" or demented trump, this is clearly a masks off of millions of people who cheers to this and will give it a vote.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

An insane amount of people agree with the rhetoric, but an even crazier amount never get to hear the crap he pulls because their media feeds them constant vitriol and lies,

I live in a very blue city, and even here there are zero news channels that aren't right-leaning owned by one of 3 billionaires or corporations. And the public broadcasting has been discredited by the right for decades.

I just wish it were more obvious - listen to experts not billionaires and politicians.

[–] Marx2k@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

In the other hand, if you're looking for in depth orb transparent national coverage from local news, most of which is owned and operated by clear channel communications or Sinclair broadcasting group, you're going to have a bad time.

It's like being angry at AM talk radio for not providing balanced coverage of democratic candidates

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Realistically, what are the odds of the US pulling out of NATO and Russia deciding it's time for Baltic special operation?

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pretty low, even if Trump wins. The things preventing that scenario are two-fold:

  1. Trump can't unilaterally leave NATO. He would need the Senate to do it I think (I'm not 100% sure here).

  2. Even without NATO, the EU (especially the Nordics & Poland) have sizable militaries and a defense agreement with the Baltics. It would be suicide for Russia to do that.

Personally, I'm more worried about the potential of Ukraine being left out to dry causing them to fall, immediately followed by Moldova falling, which would then pull Romania (and therefore the EU) into the war. This would not be a defensive war, which wouldn't trigger article 5. Who knows how things would spiral from there.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how much independence Russia has now. I doubt they'd march into another country by their own will right after Ukraine, they usually take some time to sit out the situation and replenish resources (2nd Chechen - Georgia - Ukraine 2014 - Ukraine 2022), but what if they'd be pushed by China or whoever to continue being a destabilizing chaos actor? Like with Transistria in Moldova, they also has tabs in Georgia-Armenian conflict and northern regions of Kazakhstan has the same vatnik sympathy problem as Donbass pre-2014 as I've heard.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Unlike those previous conflicts, Russia has deployed pretty much their entire military equipment reserves. With how much of a brain drain they had, it will take them a long time to re equip for another war.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's not a question of millions of Americans not seeing a problem with the racism, because they are also racists.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

my parents are voting for him because he's racist. They're old, white, and racist too, so I guess it's some form of tribalism. They see themselves represented by the disgusting behavior of drumpf, and wish to uplift him almost as if it venerates/excuses their own racism/sexism/xenophobia. They think "We can't be the bad guys, look at how popular someone with the same ideas as us is!" them voting for drumpf is really them voting for the idea that they're actually good people, despite everything their children/peers/idols are telling them.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 weeks ago

"I hate you, you're a piece of trash and you should die."

"Why can't people take a joke"?

-Conservative comedians

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"They love making babies"? White conservative Americans actually do have that culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

Quiverfull is a Christian theological position that sees large families as a blessing from God.

I have a white GOP cousin who came from a family with 5 kids, and she has 7 kids of her own. I have a white conservative ex girlfriend who has 6 kids.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's bad when brown people do it.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Because they see it as a competition. They want to be the ones to "inherit the earth," and see other ethnic groups "being fruitful and multiplying" as a threat to their own ethnicity. It's barely veiled white supremacy supported by warped Christian theology.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh look, a hitler rally in 2024.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes I know about Hitler, but what about second Hitler?

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And yet people here claiming they can't see the difference between trump and Harris

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve been commenting on a few trolls doing that in other posts. Fucking moron admitted he was racist in one lmao

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've heard it irl :/

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He's pulling the "people have no sense of humor" shit. See though, when you make race jokes it's up to the race you're talking about to decide if you're being offensive or funny. And we agree he's being racist to us. When a conservative comedian who hates brown people makes these "jokes", we know they're not really jokes

“These people have no sense of humor.

"These people"

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The uber I took home on Saturday had a right-wing radio show playing, and it was the same deal.

Saying horrible things under the guise of "humor" but blurring the line just enough that the audience might think it's real.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I try not to give negative reviews. I stick with either a positive for something truly outstanding or nothing at all (my default). But an unsafe driver gets a negative review because I want to protect other passengers. Similarly, I'd ding a driver who had political or religious garbage playing. They should create a neutral environment.

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Jesus that's gross. I've said this before and I know my non American point of view is irrelevant but I cannot fathom how Trump is even a serious candidate in a western democracy.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Even if he loses in 8 days, America is pretty far gone that it could’ve let somebody like him get as far as he has.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

According to somebody I know who's voting Trump? Economy bad, so everything and everyone else be damned. He doesn't like Trump, but he'd vote for actual Hitler himself if he thinks he would improve the economy over the other candidate.

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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That second one can’t be a real quote 😐

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What a genuine cunt. Even in a trump audience it seems barely anyone finds him funny

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm against violence but bloody hell....

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

I get that it's for his funny joke, but him saying they don't even pull out, like this is the best way to prevent babies is so funny to me.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Puerto Rico is an American territory. The self-own is palpable

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They don't know or understand that.

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty normal to talk shit about various states and cities. Sometimes for no reason at all.

If he had made that same joke about Hawaii I'd probably laugh. It's context of racism that makes it awful.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was really great that the US destroyed the Kingdom of Hawai'i. Nice.

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck this joke of a human being. One of my best friends is from Puerto Rico, and he's more American than this fuck sack will ever be.

(Still fucked up that Puerto Rico isnt a state.)

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As an aspiring comedian, I never liked hinchcliff. His "Kill Tony" podcast and format has always been ridiculously racist/sexist. He's a "shock comedian" just like Anthony Jeselnik. They say the most upsetting, shitty things, and because it's so awkward and shitty, it makes people laugh. This is because after saying something horrible, the audience is forced to make a decision. Either the comedian is a terrible person with terrible opinions, OR the comedian is playing a character who happens to be a terrible person (think It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia).

The problem with this approach, is that it's only funny if the comedian is an otherwise good person. However, with a lot of these "shock comedians," you can tell that they're not playing a character, they're just shitty people. hinchcliff is one of those people.

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[–] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oof. 12 minutes of an absolutely dogshit set.

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[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if the jokes weren't racist as hell, they're just generally shitty unfunny jokes

Mind you, if they were just shitty unfunny jokes, he'd just be boring rather than horrific

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't have much respect for Tony before, but whooo that set was straight up dog shit.

Michael Richards set was better. You know the one.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Having many kids is better than being an impotent low t beta.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's so fucking weird right? Because couchfucker Vance talks about how motherhood is the best thing.

But I guess if you're on the wrong side of color spectrum, motherhood is bad.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is stupid, the only winning move is to ignore this dumb shit and just vote for progressive politicians who actually care about their constituents

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