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I don't want a president. (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 weeks ago by tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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I mean this in a serious way. Like, I'm so sick of the goddamn spectacle of these ghouls. They smile and lie to us with blood splattered on their faces, chanting their vacuous slogans, forming cults of personality. And every 4 years, we can't escape their names and poison words being drilled into our fucking heads from every angle. I'm tired, and sick of seeing their faces, I'm always sick of the stress of politics, but it just feels like additional screws being tightened for no discernable gain or benefit.

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[–] meth_dragon@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

electoralism needs downvotes

downvotes will fix amerikkka

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, imagine how the history books are going to remember this period

After 8 years, four under a wrinkly old monster who was republican, and four under a wrinkly old monster who was a Democrat, the people of the former United States decided that the whole idea of having a president was fairly silly. They would soon remove the position and after a brief period of unpleasantness, figure out some important things.

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

MFW I am living through the brief period of unplesantness walter-breakdown

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

May Allah enlighten the people

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I read this in a Monty Python voiceover. hahaha

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

in my opinion, within the context of bourgeois democracy, a parliamentary proportional representation system is the best. in that it can force the bigger parties into coalitions with smaller ones. it'll actually cause your PSL/Green vote to actually count. But obviously neither of the major parties wants it.

The American 'democracy' is one of the least democratic ones.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ideally with some sort of mechanism to ensure the party makeup in parliament matches the overall percentages of the vote, otherwise you end up with the UK where half the time the Tories get like 70% of the seats with like 30% of the vote

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, Proportional Representation. South Africa is a good example.

[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need fluid e-democracy

spoiler

On the blockchain garf-troll

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, I hate it almost as much as Monday's.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

It really is, it's so gross.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

US elections are just a money making scheme for the media industrial compex

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

What about eternal presidents kim-il-young

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fletcher's Memorial Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

anarchy

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You need a grill pill.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

What adblock and no presence on corpo social media does to an mfer: comfy-cool

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

IF YOU DON'T REVOLT, YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN!!!

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let me just... revolt by myself?

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

... Now I'm just revolting. what

[–] m532@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Eat shit ancap

[+] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's only one type of "political participation" that I approve of... It's illegal-to-say

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Sudden displacement of matter by a great amount of force.

[–] danisth@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

downbear

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ooh boy there's a lot to unpack here so I'll leave my analysis behind a spoiler

spoiler

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Disappointed this wasn't PPB

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

😌

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

what a dweeb

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You do not, in fact, understand a bit of how I feel.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no i don't; i identified with some of the thoughts you shared and shared my own along with my coping strategy in the hopes that it would help and it fell so flat that it was deleted by a moderator.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I appreciate that you care. Coping is what we do about the inevitability of death and other things we cannot control at all. But this system an order was human made, and it can be human-unmade. Dare to dream.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, I appreciate that you care.. ... it can be human-unmade ...

yes it can and i believe that this is one of the answers. i'm convinced that this system we're forced to live in is driven by money and steered by indifference.

the last time i can remember when things were this heavy was during the aids/hiv scare in the 1980's and they taught me back then that giving a rat's ass about each other makes a difference and that's what we did back then to survive when my government let us die by thousands while publicly pretending that they were doing everything in their power to help.

something similar is happening in gaza rn by different means; but that same callous indifference is letting it happen again and in the same way it did with my ancestors in this country. i also think you'r right about coping; i think it's a necessary part of any strategy to keep yourself sane in this system & people that are hellbent on repeating history.

i hope you find something that works for you and endures for your lifetime like the lesson i learned back in the 80's

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks! I'm doing okay... ish. I find redirecting anger and indigence towards these systems is the most productive and empowering. Too often we get angry and upset and turn inwards or get depressed. Hasan often quotes someone, I forget who, but he says 'be charitable to individuals, be ruthless towards systems'. We need to apply that to ourselves too.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i'm going to share another one of my coping strategies and this one helps me with the depression:

we've been in this situation before; as we've been for centuries; and we've not only survived but thrived enough to change public perception despite the efforts of presidents like reagan and both bushes; or "allies" like clinton and biden (emphasis on the quotes); or even institutions like congress & the supreme court and we'll be here long after trump and his conservative handlers die away. they have the ability to make life difficult, but that's the extent of their power and it will eventually fade no matter how permanent it appears and we can help each other when they do make it difficult like we did back in the 80's.

like the last time i shared my coping strategy, i don't expect you to agree with any of this. i share it in the hopes that there's something in it that you can copy/paste if any of it applies to or helps your situation.