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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

If you didn't vote, or voted third party, because the Democrat candidate wasn't "Left enough" for you, then like it or not you got exactly what you voted for.

You have to vote like we have the system we have, not like we have the system you want.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

How's that "Schumer Strategy" working out for ya?

The DNC knew it would fail. That was the plan. Perhaps not this spectacularly, but they knew it wouldn't work. They did their job. They defended the interests of Capital.

[–] ntma@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Maybe if they got a couple more celebrities to endorse Harris she would have won. Or maybe all the celebrities could have sung Imagine like what they did during COVID.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

America's far left is just normal shit.

"Hey how about everybody gets food and can see the doctor"

"How about suck my dick and be my slave"

"Whoa whoa you two, let's be civil. Especially you, first guy 😠"

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Too scared of the spooky communism👻👻

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

A spectre is haunting the United States 👻

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

America's left is what you describe as the far-left, but the far-left is much the same as it is everywhere else, Marxists and Anarchists. The far-left is relatively consistent internationally because its built on centuries of theory and practice.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago

Yea but they won’t court the “left”(what little of a left exists in America) because the DNC doesn’t want leftist or even center-left policies, they like and want center-right policies that republicans 30 years ago pushed.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's intentional. A conscious decision made by the DNC.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 23 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

They don't want to give up their share of rich donors and insider trading privileges.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Exactly. In bourgeois "democracy" political parties serve the wealthy Capitalists and Imperialists that can afford to buy them. Socialism is the only path to actual democracy.

[–] 01011@monero.town 3 points 5 hours ago

Somebody is paying attention.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly. You're taking the high horse, ethical, "I won't sink to their level" strategy against people who literally have no ethics, scruples, morals, or shame. They are depending on you to fight fair. So they can punch you in the back of the head when you turn your back. People who present themselves as more intelligent, moral, and noble prove once again that they're rubes and marks.

What the fuck is it going to take that you have to fight fire with fire with these lateral pieces of human shit?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

"When they go low, we go high", Obama said..... only to be met with "You go high, we'll go low, because low gets us votes."

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 18 hours ago (3 children)
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Can you send the primary source for those numbers. I was looking for this information weeks ago and couldn't find it.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago

All of the Zionists need to be tossed out.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Israel actually doesn't matter to most Americans, sad as it is.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 43 points 18 hours ago

They refuse to actually campaign and address people's concerns. They gaslight, minimize, denigrate, guilt trip, and verbally abuse people and then are surprised Pikachu when no one is happy or motivated to vote for them.

"You owe it to your country to vote." "You are a bad person/stupid/russian shill etc if you vote for anyone but Kamala."

These things just stroke your ego and are otherwise thought terminating. They do not get votes. Like holy fuck, if you just listen to people's concerns and talk with them, it tends to work.

But with Citizens united, campaigns focus around a capitalist spending strategy like it's Election Christmas. Bernie Sanders, Stacey Abrams, and AOC all had what I'd call "authentic" campaigns, where they requested help with canvassing and phone calls before they requested donations. Like donations were fine, but most emails and texts were asking for workers, volunteers, and physical help. Those requests were completely absent from Kamala's campaign.

The status quo just doesn't want the common person to have political literacy. If they teach us how to canvas, then we'll do it for someone who isn't status quo. If they show us how to run for office, then we will just run ourselves like AOC did. They are in direct conflict with themselves because they are trying to suppress anything except status quo Dems.

[–] ronflex@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Absolutely, we need to place blame where it belongs. Democrats fucked up bad, it is basically 2016 all over again

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 43 points 18 hours ago

It's worse.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 47 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Remember Primaries? Of course that would require the DNC not to turn out the lights when they hear something they don't like.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"But you had one with Biden and he appointed Harris so you chose that!!!"

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"I didn't hear anyone calling for other candidates."

That was a response I got from a guy when I brought up the botched primary all thanks to Biden's hubris.

Like, no shit Sherlock, we couldn't call for anyone else, there was no time!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago

My ballot had two choices: Biden and uncommitted. I voted uncommitted.

A primary with one name on the ballot is not a primary.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

One quote from last night stuck with me (though I can't remember who said it): "Republicans have been trying to grow their party for 4 years. Democrats have only been trying to grow their party for 4 months."

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