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[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Mearsheimer coming to the right conclusions with the worst intentions is something people just need to get over lol His analysis makes sense and I'm not going to expect someone who literally gets paid by Washington to suddenly sing the internationale

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly, and frankly I find the honesty refreshing. He's not trying to dress it up as US being benevolent and whatever. He just openly states that the US sees China as competition, and wants to prevent a competitor from developing.

[–] _pi@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Realpolitik is often used as imperial cheer leading and appologia. Mearshiemer is a real one for the fact that his version of realpolitik binds the empire as well. A major difference with him is that Mearshiemer recognizes that as powers grow their understanding of what security under the realpolitik framework becomes more paranoid. He essentially recognizes that under realpolitk the power of a country is inverse to it's actual ability to hold to its advertised values.

I will always read Mearshiemer because his analyses are actually serious. Also fun fact Mearshiemer is actually Sanders left in his personal politics which is something you will never understand from reading his work. That's why he's worth reading.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

I very much agree. I'd also add that his view is basically to focus on the selection pressures within the geopolitical environment, and then try to understand how successful strategies evolve in response to these pressures. He posits that countries either pursue strategies that allow them to thrive, or they get swept away by others. It's a very rational way to approach things.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago

I think it's important to look at when the ghouls actually get things right, it shows that they are aware of their situation and will try to improve it at the expense of the people.

[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

China should strangle the US's development uno reverso

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

That would go against the "Do nothing, win" strategy Xi has been aggressively employing/not employing

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 days ago

I feel like the US is already doing a great job of that all on its own.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

What development?

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That second half of the interview amounts to John Mearsheimer saying 'The US can no longer stop what I consider to be China's clearest path towards regional hegemony'. It is not just throwaway futurism. It's not something he says lightly. It's his entire worldview and theory coming into place.

He continues to assert that it is in the USA's interest to slowdown Chinese economic growth as much as possible, but even then he would bet that such measures would not slow China down and would likely hurt the US more in the process.

NGL, I want to believe.

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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

necc too thicc

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lmaooo this has been the postscript to all his commentary on Ukraine for at least a decade, I’m curious to see how his position evolves now that he recognizes what’s up

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Same, if he now accepts that China is a peer competitor to the US what does he think the US approach should be going forward.

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: