this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2024
195 points (94.5% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27006 readers
1445 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

I think you'd be fine here in Australia but that depends on whether you have a job or not. Australia is good for anyone who comes with employment already. Otherwise its Work And Holiday visa pathways are better suited to younger people because of the usually physical and demanding nature of the jobs available.

Otherwise Argentina would also be legally okay for you, however I haven't lived there for a very long time so I can't say for sure. It would be a lot less safe for foreigners than Australia but I hear it wouldn't be more rough than some of the rough places in the US. You will want a stable source of income ideally from a remote job, such as freelancing for clients that can pay with dollars or euros. You will also want a friend who's native or already well established so they can teach you the ropes socially/locally and with the current state of the country. I would personally not go back to Argentina without a stable income because making a livable income inside the country is going to be next to impossible.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in the UK, and I work with a LOT of Americans already, so know this first hand:

  • You fuckers are always in for a culture shock when you realise that everywhere isn't like London. You seem to either expect London or Harry Potter Land, but when you end up somewhere like Bristol, Leeds, or Birmingham the frame of reference just dies and you see the wheels turning in your head trying to make sense of it all.
  • Weirdly, you seem to really like our supermarkets. They're a lot smaller than yours, meal deals are a novelty that never gets old, and paying the price on the tag is the greatest thing ever.
  • You love our bread, and our chocolate is like crack to you. You'd think that you'd moved to France or something...
  • Butter on bread will fuck you up. You use Mayo all the time, but we use butter/spread, and it messes with your minds.
  • You quickly learn that Europe is a continent, and that cultures across the continent are very different to one another. You also learn that no one knows US history that well, or that we had a war with you (since we have basically had a war with everyone at some point).
  • The drinking culture is a really interesting one. Some love it, some hate it. It's a staple of British life
  • We get paid a lot less than you do, but your money will go much further because you're not spending it on healthcare. You'll also get taxed a lot, but ultimately you'll earn enough to be comfortable, and a comfortable life in the UK is nice.

To answer your question, you're more than welcome here, and it's much easier to get a visa to the UK for you than for us to go to the US. Expect some people to give you shit for Trump, but give them shit back for Brexit and electing the Tories for 15 years.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Working with a few of them. One moved here around 20 years ago, and one moved here 2 years ago. They're both doing fine. The rest I don't know very well.

Don't bring your politics over here, though.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in France and my cousin married an American.

Cost of living is high and the language is bullshit, but the standards of living are some of the best in the world. Very old established democracy and rule of law, workers rights, social security, and whatever the complete opposite of political apathy is. Culture is rich with a disproportionate level of global relevance for the country's size. The location is ideal in the middle of europe, with a good variety of landscapes and climate.

Internet is cheap and fast, but i don't know anything about the state of tech jobs.

I don't know much about the tax system either but my assumption is you might save money just on the healthcare alone.

Overall i wouldn't recommend, you'd be better off in a country with a language closer to english, such as most countries north of France. They'll have better english proficiency and you'll learn the language easier.

[–] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

France always comes up on lists of good places to live, and there are Francophiles here as everywhere. I admire the place, but I chose Spanish instead of French when it was time to start studying another language, so that die was cast a long time ago.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah i don't think it's worth learning french for almost any reason, lots more people speak spanish

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Okay I've read about three comments and I'm gonna need someone to explain the connotation behind the word "expat" because the only definition I can find is "Someone who resides outside their country of origin."

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Very online folks word lawyering to the n-th degree. Language shifts and has different meanings in different countries.

To play along, I've heard "expat" to refer to someone on a work appointment with a fixed timeline, say, someone who works for Microsoft being sent to France for 2 years. I've heard many Americans say "I'm immigrating to" to mean they are going through permeant resident or citizen pathways with the host country.

Others have a different read of the word, but as long as you aren't a jerk wherever you are going, it won't ever come up

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

New Zealander here. I work in IT. Americans seem to get on fine here in the IT sector. NZ is less right wing than the US but you wouldn't earn as much and housing is expensive

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

You hit the nail on the head when you said "expats or exiles"

They're immigrants, and it's only Brits and Yanks that refuse to admit it

I'm an immigrant. Learn the fucking language yous cunts. Respect the country's mindset. Pay your fucking taxes.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Canada would be easy, but you cannot just go there and work

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would be doing that too, but you got to understand that other countries have other cultures, some things wil be better like free heathcare and better labour laws but other are not "as good". In europe they do control a lot of things we can access on the internet for example. If someone doesn't comply with an EU regulation they will be punished, it's not 'freedom of speach" without consequences like in the US. Also being entitled like many americans are will not work here. So like everything in life some people will be a good match for.one country and others for other countries.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm really curious about what you think you're not being allowed to visit on the internet.

I can't think of a single thing that's 'blocked'.

Unless you're under 13, of course, in which case I concede there are a lot of restrictions - but that's a good thing.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

more.like some youtube videos or some sites that didn't comply with GPDR. It's been a while since I had a problem like this but to be fair I was just giving an example of regulations that exist to protect us, that we support, but that goes against the "american way"

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

GPDR does not have any site blocking provisions, just fines.

A lot of small US websites (typically regional media) choose to not show pages to EU IPs but they are not blocked.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, ok - that's fair.

I thought you were implying that we had some kind of firewall like China or something!

I agree, US sites geolocking their content is sometimes a pain, but I get your meaning. We do tend to be more comfortable with our governments trying to protect us than the Americans seem to.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

i think that the only blocked sites are gambling related and not even everywhere at that

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Wanna move and work remotely for your current company I guess? Why should we welcome you instead of someone who wants to come here to fill up a vacant position that we don't have workforce for?

You can't have your cake and eat it too just because you're angry that the wrong guy got elected. There are people around the world getting bombed, they're the people who need to get out of their country, not a tech bro that could just move to a State that reliably elected Democrats.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›