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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

Cyberpunk characteristics include:

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What was the first cyberpunk video game you played? Were you playing the point & click adventure games back on DOS? Shadowrun on SNES? Deus Ex on PC? Or did you just recently discover this thing called "cyberpunk" with Cyberpunk 2077?

I'm curious how long everyone here has been into cyberpunk.

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[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 minutes ago

Shadowrun: Returns from Hair Brained Schemes.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

Tron for the Intellevision.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

Syndicate. Control 4 agents doing corporate espionage missions.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 hours ago

I'm not really into that style of gaming, but I did try "Watch Dogs" for a couple hours. I mention this bc I thought the hacking part was the most interesting, and when I mentioned this to a friend they directed me to picoCTF: https://picoctf.org/. Basically this is a training environment aimed at high schoolers to teach them how to do hacking "capture the flag" competitions. So it's realistic in terms of teaching real hacking skills, but back when I did it they had a "game mode" where your character walked through this 2D environment and solved challenges as part of a story. I could only solve some of the challenges, but still it was pretty cool. Anyway, the web page is still up, don't know if they still have the game mode.

[–] ToffeeIsForClosers@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Neuromancer on the C64. I can still hear the theme music.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

...i was going to say flashback or mean streets, but no, it was definitely the original tron arcade game; that pre-dated even war games...

...before a certain point in the early eighties, the line between cyberpunk and science fiction gets pretty blurry, so i don't think anything i played in the seventies counts...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

... Crystal caves?
Or Beneath a steel sky?

Also Wolfenstein had that cyberdolf.
And Doom had cyberdemon.

But my memory def goes to System Shocks and Deus Ex. Love them. Actually I love all of the mentioned.

[–] Hammerjack@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried playing Beyond a Steel Sky? I haven't played it but I can't imagine a sequel released so many years after the original would be any good. I could be wrong though, maybe it's fun.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Didn't know about the sequel, it doesn't look horrible tbh (I got past the modern-design-shock that hit me at first in 20 or 30 seconds as the trailer played).

But yeah, if I get around to play it I'll def manage my expectations.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Neuro on c64. Don't remember much though. But deus ex on PC left a mark. One of the alltime favourites.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Shadowrun on SNES. And I'm running Shadowrun tonight for the first time in literal decades (I last GMed it when I was in middle school!), for people who haven't played before; I'm so nervous and unprepared! I hope that even if I mangle the rules I can get across the vibes.

[–] Hammerjack@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks chummer, I'll need it!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't get brain-burnt! (Am I doing it right, been too long...)

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks, I didn't flatline! One of my players couldn't make this week so I improvised a variant on the classic Food Fight intro scenario so that we could familiarize ourselves with the combat without going off on a run sans street samurai. In retrospect I'm not sure I handled recoil penalties correctly, and we slogged through the rulebook looking for some things like "Why does spell Force matter again?" but in the end only one of the players got mildly shot, and the mage manabolted a guy so hard that he totally fried from the inside out, so I'm calling it a success!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

That sounds awesome, nice job!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Flashback. Still one of my favorites too.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Would Wasteland count as cyberpunk? It has nearly all the same tropes, but instead of being in a somewhat functional corpocratic dystopia, the dystopia is because it's post-apocalyptic.

If not, then the first cyberpunk thing I've played is Crusader: No Remorse. That one is definitely cyberpunk.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Deus Ex. Give me the GEP gun

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 hours ago

"Stick with the prod."

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Remember that a nonlethal takedown is always the most silent takedown.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 18 hours ago

It's a silent takedown if no one else is alive to hear it 😎

[–] LEONHART@slrpnk.net 9 points 20 hours ago

This answer may be a cheat and a stretch, but hear me out...

Star Wars: Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight

Specifically, the opening levels set in Nar Shaddaa, one of my favorite, underappreciated locations in the extended universe.

The whole moon was one giant, grimey, neon-lit city blanketed in night, overrun with sleazy organized criminals and jazz music. Pretty big noir vibes too.

It's the first time I remember experiencing the aesthetic, which felt so sharply different from the colorful, swashbuckling Star Wars I had known. And I knew I loved it.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 18 hours ago

Interphase (Amiga/Atari ST, 1989).

The player moves around in virtual space of a corporate system while their partner infiltrates the actual space of the building. You have to disable electrified doors and reroute security bots etc to create a path through the offices, all while fighting off defensive programs

Unusually for the era you steer with the mouse and it’s all in vector graphics.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 12 hours ago

shadowrun genesis

[–] kethali@lemmy.ca 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Syndicate I have fond memories of, seems cyberpunk enough. Deus Ex was also a lot of fun, though my computer at the time could barely run it.

Plenty of anime from the 90s that fit the theme as well.

[–] Hammerjack@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

I'm ashamed to say the only Syndicate game I've played is the 2012 FPS reboot which was basically Syndicate in name only.

Although, the original Syndicate creator was so mad about the 2012 reboot that he made Satellite Reign as a spiritual successor, and I really enjoyed that one.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Had no idea there was a Neuromancer video game.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer_(video_game)

Anyways, probably System Shock 2 for me.

[–] Hammerjack@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago

If you want to try it out, you can play the Neuromancer game in your browser at the internet archive.

[–] calibanor@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

For me it was Cops 2170 I had a human sized rat policing the streets and ahooting up bad guys

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

System shock 1. I loved the danger zones and safe zones and hacking the med bay to increase the safe zones.

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[–] heyo@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago
[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 5 points 21 hours ago

Deus Ex. I sucked at it.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago

Shadowrun on Genesis probably, but memory that far back is pretty hazy.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Does Duke Nukem 2D on PC count?

[–] Hammerjack@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I never really considered Duke Nukem to be cyberpunk... but yeah, that screenshot totally looks like it came from a cyberpunk game. Weird.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

Yah, maybe it's more just sci-fi.

In that case, the first Deus Ex game was my first. Great stuff back then. Hard to play now, IMO.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

G-Police, 1997, PC.

I absolutely love and played the shit out of Deus Ex, but, technically, I played G Police first.

G-Police Lore / Setting

The year is 2097.

Following the exhaustion of all natural resources on Earth, an ensuing rapid militarization and colonization of the solar system's planets and moons, and a further devastating extra planetary war between large multi national coalitions...

... large megacorporations assumed outright control of most of these colonies, abolished the construction of capital class space vessels, and have forced the demilitarization of Earth's remaning nation states.

What remains of them is a collaborative police force, largely focused on localized peacekeeping, anti piracy and anti terrorist operations.

The G-Police.

...

You are brooding male noir protagonist, a veteran pilot of the the earlier interplanetary wars.

Flying for the G-Police is basically the only semi-lucrative job option you've got left.

But for you... there's also a personal motive.

Your sister flew for the G-Police too, a promising rookie with idealized notions of justice. She was rising fast, earning accomodations, even spoke of a potential lover.

But then she 'committed suicide', was apparently quite depressed and overstressed.

You don't buy that for a minute.

Somebody killed her, went to the trouble of covering it up, and you want to know who and why.

Now you've managed to obscure your identity while keeping your flying record intact, landing you a post in the G-Police, in the same unit your sister was in, determined to find the truth.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vbm6RICA8_4&pp=ygUOZyBwb2xpY2UgaW50cm8%3D

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Shadowrun on the Sega Genesis. It's the more faithful rendition of the TTRPG to video game adaptation.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

So far? Cloud Punk.

Most games that claim to be cyberpunk don't really delve too much into the politics or do it in a really bad way.

Cyberpunk 2077 is based on a very ableist TTRPG, for example that claims that the more modifications you make to your body, the less 'human' you are and thus the more likely you are to get 'cyberpsychosis'. However, that isn't necessarily true and if it is those folks that get it should be taken care of in a medical sense. Also, 'humanness' is not synonymous with ethical or moral etc as much as folks like to believe it is.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

2077 basically breaks from its source material over this. There's a series of side quests where you are asked to non-lethally subdue people suffering from "cyberpsychosis" in order to facilitate independent research on rehabilitation, and it turns out that basically all of them are either a) suffering from medical side effects that (according to some other in-game documents) are known to cyberware manufacturers, but being swept under the rug to keep sales and profits flowing, and/or b) suffering from untreated psychological trauma, and it just turns out lashing out is a lot more destructive when you happen to have a ton of built in weapon systems that are always with you and ready to engage at a moment's notice. The "humanness" angle is sometimes seen being pushed by the media, but it's basically an excuse the corps use to shift blame away from their faulty products.

[–] anttifantti@sopuli.xyz 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Deus Ex, on PS2. I can’t even remember if I finished or even enjoyed it. Later, I got it on PC and it’s been one of my favourite games ever since and fully got me into both cyberpunk and the immersive sim genre!

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[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If it counts, Shadowrun on Xbox 360, that remake multiplayer game.

If not, it was probably Deus Ex Human Revolution.

I didn’t really know about the cyberpunk genre until years later but DEHR was a blast.

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Remember Me was probably my first. Neo Paris was gorgeous and I still listen to the soundtrack.

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