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It's as simple as not buying it. There's no trick.
Check out some stuff like the vegan home cooks discord for some recipes, some blogs in whatever cusine you enjoy. Then make those foods.
I'm honestly not trying to be snarky, but just go to YouTube and search for "slaugherhouse footage". Once you see it, you can't go back.
This is what did it for me. Once you see that shit you stop seeing meat as food.
A friend and I watched Hormel factory footage (Rifftrax lol) CW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagPzmaVc38
They and I were sickened and discomforted by the footage up until the moment the meat was being sliced into bacon strips and all of a sudden he's like "oh, that's the yummy stuff!"
I can't give universal advice, I can only tell you what has worked for me. Every person is unique.
Expectations: I think you have to free yourself from being able to become a vegan in one day. The whole thing is a transition that can take many months. You try to find animal-free alternatives step by step and replace them bit by bit. At some point you get used to it and can't imagine anything else.
Motivation: I watched the worst and cruelest documentaries on animal exploitation/suffering that I could find. I cried a lot and still forced myself to finish watching them. This cemented my decision to become a vegan and stay vegan. I also talk to other vegans whenever possible, which also helps a lot.
Food: For example, I don't enjoy cooking complicated dishes and keep it simple, so it's easier for me to motivate myself to cook something quickly. Here are a few examples of what I often cook: salad with garlic bread, beans with garlic and onions, broccoli casserole with vegan cheese, Brussels sprouts with potatoes, rice with beans, pasta with tomato sauce, etc. Between meals I eat bread with hummus, tomatoes, peppers, cucumber, jam or lots of fruit such as apples, pears, grapes, peaches, apricots, depending on the season and nuts. If I absolutely can't bring myself to cook, then I order vegan delivery food or make vegan ready meals. But I try to avoid that because they are often unhealthier and more expensive.
Clothing and other goods: It's quite a lot of work to research every purchase to see if what you want to buy is really vegan. There are vegan labels that are helpful, but it's still a lot of work sometimes. Depending on where you live, there may also be stores that specialize in vegan products. This means you don't have to do all the reseach by yourself. I try to consume less, repair broken things and generally avoid products that can't be repaired. Second-hand is also often a good idea.
Limits: It's okay to have limits. Nobody is perfect. It's better to avoid 98% animal suffering than not at all. Drugs/medicines, for example, are unfortunately the line I draw, as there is often no choice of animal-free alternatives. So sometimes I only have the choice of avoiding medication altogether and then staying ill. I very much hope that this will improve in the future and that more animal-free medicines will be available.
I get where you are coming from, I experienced something similar. It wasn’t so much that I desired meat, because I didn’t really. I was ready to give it up. It was more that I just didn’t know how to replace all the meat I would normally consume. Like, it would be time make dinner and I would just sorta blank out and have no idea what to make because I was so used to basing meals (dinner especially) around meat.
If that describes your situation, then I would suggest a 2 step process:
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Go online and try to grab as many interesting vegan recipes that you can find. Even just pictures of vegan food can open up ideas.
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Invest time, if you are able, in planning out each of your meals for the week or even just the next couple days. If you have a plan and have all the ingredients set up in advance, I think you’ll find it’s much easier.
An additional tip if you happen to live in a larger city with vegan restaurants… see if they will sell you their “meat” separately. For example, one of my local places will let you buy any of the vegan “meats” they make by the pound, but they don’t advertise it. It’s a great replacement for lunch meat. You could just email them and see if they would do it. I find most vegan restaurants are pretty cool about stuff like that.
Without knowing your specific experience, I'll say incremental change might be easier. Start with cutting out only dark meat, it's the worst for you anyways. Opt for more meals including vegetables and such rather than focusing on cutting because that would be the space your moving into anyways so you'll need to get comfortable eating that way.
If that's all that's holding you back, then just try all the meat substitutes like Beyond, Garden, etc. If you're looking to be turned off of meat so you don't want it anymore, then just watch some footage of a slaughter house.
Give yourself a two week license to eat as many chips as you want and after you will pretty much be out of the cravings period. But also it helps to get out of the deficit mindset ('stop eating meat') and get into a positive mindset ('start eating interesting plant-based meals'). Having a good cookbook helps. I like the America Test Kitchen Vegetarian cookbook with some modifications or the Moosewood Diner cookbook for quicker meals.
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Watch Dominion https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
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Try these recipes: https://www.badmanners.com/recipes
Replace it with other filling and tasty proteins. There are meat alternative products such as beyond and impossible which replicate stuff like chicken, ground beef, meatballs etc but all plant based. Incorporating proteins like tofu, tempeh, and seitan is also great, as they’re less expensive and very nutritious. I’d also recommend dishes with pulses and legumes, any kinds of beans, lentils, chickpeas etc are gonna get your protein needs met and they’re just really tasty
You dont need meat to get your protein as there are ethical alternatives such as pulses, peas, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds and whole grains.
It just takes a little relearning at first before it becomes routine. You learn at https://veganuary.com/try-vegan/
i've been trying for the last decade or so as well and i think i will have to make peace with the fact that i'm never going to fully succeed; only minimize as much as possible.
i think that lentils are the closest thing to a meat replacement you can find; but they usually have a lot of carbohydrates. the fiber and protein helps a little bit in keeping the glucose level down and adding in fats/oils while cooking/preparation helps too; but i find that i sometimes have to pair it with meat to give my pancreas the break it needs.
some lentils are better than others and i place emphasis on the good ones to help me stay away from meat; but all the best & most delicious lentil recipes i know have been handed down through the generations and only seem to work with the "less better" lentils like pinto beans. (vegan and vegetarian restaurants have great recipes, but they're expensive and sometimes won't share their recipes).
Literally any whole grain paired with literally any legume. The combination gives you every essential amino acid in protein. Popcorn and baked beans is a meat replacement.
i'm going to give this a try and see if my glucose monitor goes off from all the carbohydrates; i hope it works because this is the only thing holding me back and ty for making me aware.
I was diagnosed with prediabetes in my late 30s and I followed this program https://www.masteringdiabetes.org/book/ along with the work of PCRM to get it under control with a vegan diet and its been 8 years now, I'm in my mid 40s now and its all under control for me. I get it that different people are different and I don't really know anything about type 1, but this really worked for me and I can't sing its praises enough, it really totally changed my life.