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You've never heard of this because you weren't supposed to.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Back when San Francisco's AM talk radio station KGO was progressive, I remember one of the show hosts talking at length with disgust about the Bohemian Grove event as it was happening, about the vulgarity of the rich and powerful gathering for networking in the backdrop of pagan rituals.

A lot of assholes like John Bolton and Dick Cheney were up there, an hour or two up the coast and up the Russian River. This was before Obama was elected, maybe 2007-ish?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Actually, tons of people have. It's up there in the same category with freemasons and illuminati in the conspiracy theory and qanon circles.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is pretty basic as far as conspiracy goes. The Why Files did a pretty good episode on the elites, bohemian grove, Illuminati, etc

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, little too gullible.

If the world were really controlled by some singular shadowy cabal for so many years, we'd have a unified world by now, and things wouldn't be so chaotic. Populist idiots wouldn't be able to take power so easily and muck everything up.

It makes much more sense that the world isn't run by anyone, and just goes where the wind happens to blow it. This is far, far more harsh and frightening though, and not as sexy, so people don't really like the idea. Doesn't leave them anyone to blame for their problems.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not saying I believe it, but the New World Order and WEF thing is somewhat compelling.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's tempting. Sure would be nice if things were that simple. As soon as you start actually trying to poke holes in it, it all falls apart pretty quick though.

The populists are a good example. If media and tech wasn't after their own profit margins first and foremost and was instead trying to maintain control of the world, then just don't cover them. Total media blackout. Nobody would hear much about them, they wouldn't be able to amass huge fanbases, they would never succeed.

But since covering them is very profitable clickbait, the media does so, and they can take power. Would make no sense if your goal was to actually hang onto power. You won't find Putin giving tons of free airtime to any of his rivals, it just doesn't make any sense.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The idea is to get control, did you even watch the video? If they were already in total control it would be the world order, not a New one ffs

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Yes, that's always the story. "Get control", for ages now. The fact they're so incompetent that they cannot finish the job despite supposedly overwhelming resources and plenty of time is a strong sign its a bunch of bs.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 14 hours ago

World economic forum is the current place where these "owners" congregate.

Damans for hookers is so high that human trafficking is required to meet the demand.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

CW: F slur

Other behavior at the campground has led to numerous claims and even some parody in popular culture. One example was President Richard Nixon's comments from a May 13, 1971, tape recording talking about upper-class San Franciscans: "The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time—it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd."

In 1978, the Bohemian Club was charged with discrimination by the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing over its refusal to hire female employees.

In June 2023, a group of former workers sued Bohemian Grove alleging wage theft and unfair labor practices.

Lmao, most believable things I have heard about this place. It's just a nice spot in the forest where a bunch of rich and powerful men meet up to be socialize and be the shitty people that they are.

It may have been important in a "culty" way early on but the ruling class seems to have lost its ferver for the esoteric and occult over the past century or two

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 4 points 16 hours ago

protip: watch the movie The Good Shepherd , for a fictionalized version of the society which makes up their membership

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I grew up a few miles from there and knew people who worked as staff. My impression is that it’s a lovely spot where boring people do nothing, in the hope that other people will think they’re doing something interesting in secret.

[–] TheDuffmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Have a friend who worked it, he said the same thing.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

That's what they want you to think!