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Happy birthday to Let's Encrypt !

Huge thanks to everyone involved in making HTTPS available to everyone for free !

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[–] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I worked for a company we had 300 websites, the boss wanted to buy certs. I told him about Lets Encrypt. He loved the idea it saved us a bunch of money. I suggest we donate $100 to them. Hes says "NO F-ing way!".

[–] max55@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

That's very great news! Thank you for all the good work!

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Just two months ago, a security team member dinged one of our services for using Lets Encrypt, as "it's not as secure as a traditional CA".

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

I'd love for them to explain how, if anything the short cert validity and constant re-checking of the domain seems more secure than traditional CAs

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It's sad that these arguments are still being shared. It was the same arguments years ago from people that would just assume that a free cert was inherently unsafe.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A client of mine pays for an SSL cert he doesn’t even use. I’ve told him before I moved him to Let’s Encrypt because I was able to automate the renew process. He decided he needed to continue paying for the SSL cert. I told him we are not using it, but he doesn’t believe me. So he continues to pay for it.

[–] pagenotfound@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I love it when companies are too stubborn to update their costs despite the necessity changing over the years.

My previous employment kept buying microsoft office license keys despite us already moving to 365. They probably did it out of habit when buying new computers. Needless to say I have a cardstack of license keys at home lol. Granted it’s for Office 2013 but I don’t really need the latest version for basic document processing.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Private sector is more efficient my ass

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Lots of people shitting on stories of people who buy certs.

You do still have to buy a cert if you want one for a .onion. Let's encrypt still doesn't support it :(

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I’m also having to manually cert every 3 months for my emby instance. It’s a minor inconvenience, but I’m definitely tempted to just buy a yearly.

[–] JohnyRocket@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't say on the website but on their anniversary day they are giving away unlimited ssl certs!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 14 hours ago

Well, they do rate limit

[–] specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SSL Certs were so god awful before certbot that it’s hard to explain now that it’s so easy and free.

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 21 hours ago

Also fucking expensive

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sad to say that all my sites where http only until 10 years ago

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

Well, you usually had to pay extra back then!

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

And my parents still buy SSL certs because that's just what they know 🤢

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My last cert renewal was $20 for 3 years. That's less than a dollar a month, not exactly breaking the bank.

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

It's been a bit since I've asked them, but they certainly complained about the cost before. Almost as much as the hosting itself for sure.

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[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 141 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Man I love let's encrypt, remember how terrible ssl was before the project landed?

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 59 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Crazy times. Nowadays it's weird when a website doesn't have https. Back then it was pretty much big companies only. And the price of a wildcard certificate...

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

When you have to use it, then yes. But in general standard technologies of today are mostly rigged.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 30 points 1 day ago

I did not have the money to pay the insane amounts these greedy for-profit certificate authorities asked, so I only remember the pain of trying to setup my self-signed root certificate on my several devices/browsers, and then being unable to recover my private key because I went over the top with securing it.

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I always had to fill out multiple pages of forms to get those free 1 year "trial" certs from startssl.

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[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if you remember, that this whole shebang was only started, because Snowden revealed that the NSA spied on all of us, it's getting much much darker.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

People behave as if having a green lock icon were enough to consider you're safe.

People behave as if there were not multiple cases of abuse of PKI.

People behave as if all those whistleblowing cases exposing widespread illegal activities by the state were not treated as normal, except those exposing them being chased and vilified.

What I'm trying to say is that we're past the stage where techno-optimism about the Internet made sense. They just say in the news that abusing you is good, and everybody just takes it.

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[–] __matthew__@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Lol I instinctively freaked out when I saw the post preview assuming it was going to be a post about a major data breach or exploit of some sort relating to Let's Encrypt.

I probably need more positivity in my life 😂

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

And it changed the Internet, for good and a lot.

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Can anyone fill me on this? Why is it so significant?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

HTTPS certs used to be very expensive and technically complicated, making it out of reach for most smaller orgs. Let's Encrypt brought easy mass adoption and changed encryption availability on the web for everyone.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It is the free, easy way to get an SSL cert (plus automated renewals). Without it, maybe HTTPS wouldn't have been so omnipresent.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

And it shouldn't have been, SSL PKI is an intentionally rigged architecture. It's intended for nation-states to be able to abuse it.

I'd like much more some kind of overlay encryption over HTTP based on web of trust and what not. Like those distributed imageboards people were trying to make with steganography in emotion.

It's a trap. Everybody is already in it and it has already been activated, so - the discussion would be of historical interest only.

[–] laxe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Huge impact on a tiny budget - that’s extremely impressive. The world could be so much better without rent seeking parasites.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.org 40 points 1 day ago

Damn! That's definitely a "I'm old" moment for me. I still remember when I first heard about the concept and I remember setting it up the first time on a self hosted project (which seemed harder back then).

Awesome project!

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