We put our faith in democrats and the democrats lost. It's time for a new plan.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2024
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I did not make the connection and thought it's a seasonal thing or shit at work but you could be right
Ready for the military to go through the county and ethnically cleanse you, or your family, or your neighbors and co-workers? Ready to find out what bread lines are like? Ready to experience population collapse?
Okay, be real. Trump isn't going to let there be bread lines; he won't set any up, and any public direct action is going to be disrupted with the military and cops. People will starve.
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Fuck.
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Want to know what’s fun? Watching your friends decide who’s fleeing, who’s arming up, and who’s lying to themselves. Welcome to queer communities in a red state in November 2024. Gods have mercy on us
There's time to get a passport.
Not much. If you don’t have one get it now
Stay safe. Leave if possible.
Already in the process. My wife and I committed to leave on the 6th, and are currently packing. Our lease ends in the spring and at that point I quit my job and we move to a blue state (already have arrangements).
Oh and I got a passport two years ago. I’m living by the understanding that if you wait to flee until you absolutely have to, you may not be able to. Better to take some risks for safety that may just be better choices regardless. I’ve always wanted to live in a coastal state, I’m a little excited when I let myself forget the devastation that’s coming.
If you and your wife aren't opposed to camping, and can do so safely, you are allowed to set up a camp for one week at a time for free in any of the National Parks, that could give you a foothold to find a cheaper place in California. Cheaper is doing a lot of work in that previous sentence.
Our friend out west actually offered us a guest bedroom while we look. We’ve actually gotten multiple offers in different cities. We’re just either waiting out our lease or leaving when it gets suddenly too hostile then staying with our friends while we find a cheap place (looks like we can downsize to a similar rent)
Good to hear! Just a heads up for you and your wife, anything next to the coast is priced outrageously, but if you look even half an hour drive inland, the prices drop quickly.
If you and your wife like nature, there are several reasonably priced places in Anza-Borrego. It's a tiny town out in the desert, in the middle of a state park. I saw a place out there a few months ago for only $58,000
Yeah, we’re looking at suburbs of Seattle and it’s not nearly as bad as we’d expected. Like without a job we’re going to be in a studio or something but it’s not nearly the financially devastating choice we’d worried. Otherwise we’d’ve probably looked at something like Annapolis or Minneapolis where it’s fine, but probably not much worse than Ohio cities.
The biggest things for us were being in a blue part of a blue state on the border with good job prospects for our careers
Well, congratulations on the upcoming move! I hope you like seafood, because as someone who has always lived in coastal states, having all the fancy regional fresh seafood around is really wasted on my dull palate. XD
My friend: "I found this really great seafood place, a little hole in the wall, let me take you."
My friend, after eating: "What do you think?"
Me: "Tastes like... fish?"
Don't like crabs, don't like lobster, don't like most fish... I wasn't born to live on the coast, clearly.
Not a huge fan of fish, but I do like crab, lobster, and shrimp and I think they all taste almost identical. You remove the texture and I wouldn't be able to say what it was, but I'd know it was shellfish. Only other seafood I like is tuna. But, like... From a can. Fresh caught and grilled? Ew. Idk what that says about my tastebuds.
I’m a pescatarian for the same reason some people give up all meat but bacon lol. I love fish too much to stay stuck in Ohio. My wife hates the stuff though lol.
And thanks, I’m very excited in part because we picked the city in question because a good friend lives there, and I’ve already found out it has all the things I love about my current location or at least close enough. We’re also a little excited because it’s closer to my siblings in law and we’re probably going to become aunts in the next few years so it’ll be good to be closer to the kids for extra spoilage. I just wish the move was more “hey this is crazy and we’re some of the least reckless people around but sometimes you gotta” instead of the “we’re afraid that if we don’t do this we may find ourselves tragically regretting staying”
Eyyy, glad to see I'm not the only one planning to leave Ohio; I'm eyeing the west coast myself, CA State job benefits look very attractive but I'd rather get any job (fully remote or in person) first and try for a state job later.
I need to get with my landlord this week and see about changing my lease renewal to month-to-month, since it doesn't technically renew till January.
I'm mostly done getting rid of all the junk I don't need and making what i still have more compact. I gotta work on my resume and start applying.
Literally the only thing I think I'll miss from Ohio is Jungle Jims. Love that damn place. not living near my parents will suck for a bit, but frankly, I never wanted to live here anyway.
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This has been a fucking long 2 weeks, and he’s not even in office yet, Jesus Christ
Not even the mercy of knowing most of the country is against him. Most of the country that gives a shit supports him.
If it gives you any comfort, I think there were a ton of people who "gave a shit", but were (and in many encounters I've had: still are) just too stupid to realize that "morally withholding" a vote for Kamala was going to enable something incalculably worse.
Those people aren't evil. Just unbelievably stupid. So much so that they're a danger to themselves and others. But not evil.
The outcome is the same, and they learned nothing from 2016-2020, so fuck 'em.
Unfortunately, we're also fucked by this.
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Back in 2015, about 5 mo the after my youngest was born, I had the (at the time) most horrific day I ever had in my life. Long story short, I got fired from my job (for mistakenly thinking HR was on my side), my oldest son had a note sent home about a live breakout at his daycare, and it rained so hard in n 30 minutes that my house flooded (the top of the mailbox was almost under water).
I got home and was upset because of being fired (I was already beyond burned out from the job to begin with), and I was trying to patiently sift through my son’s hair to check for lice. I was not a very patient person at that point, said fuck it, and grabbed my hair clippers to shave my son’s head bald. I’ve never shaved anyone else’s head, but my own, so I probably was a little too aggressive, and the unit got hot and burned my son.
My 5mo was crying, so I took him and was trying to calm him down. Around this point the storm of the century began. It was so bad that lightning hit really close to the house (three times). Each time it hit, the lights would go off and back on, and then thunder struck. It was very disturbing to say the least.
Then the water began to rise. And it kept rising. And it wouldn’t stop. No matter how much I panicked and begged for it to stop. I was personally in tears. Then I noticed my neighbor trying to drive through the flooded waters, and her car got swept away by the water. I saw the water reaching her side view mirrors, and I handed my wife the baby and was about to bolt out the door to try to do “something” (it was straight instinct).
In short order, the rain started stopping, and all the water started receding. My panic slowly faded as I realized we weren’t going to drown. In no time my neighbors (most who we hadn’t met yet) all descended on my house with mops, buckets, and fans to help start cleaning up the mess. The carpet and bottom 6” of drywall were ruined. I spent my unscheduled vacation pulling up the carpet, replacing the soaked drywall, and even painting the office (it got flooded too).
Our office and living room was crammed into our dining room/kitchen (thank goodness for open concepts). We eventually replaced the carpet and painted everything. I wet vacuumed my car and removed 16 gallons of water, took out the seats, and put fans on it for a week straight.
Those neighbors became our best friends. We all still stay in touch and have multiple get togethers each year. A lot has changed since that day, myself included. I consider it for the better.
All that to say: this too shall pass.
That's a nice story and all, but what happens when your wife is an immigrant and your neighbors all decide to "do something about it?" Or they just say nothing as the federal goons come to deport them.
There are incalculable ways for this to NOT pass for millions of us. Saying this too shall pass is some privileged bullshit.
Saying this too shall pass is some privileged bullshit.
Or maybe people trying to give each other comfort and hope.
You're still responsible for taking whatever measures you feel necessary but lets not attack people trying to help.
You're not entitled to harm people on your side, we've done that for the last decade and all it's gotten us is a fractured ideology with a hundred different camps of people bitching about minor differences in what progressive things are good or not, and allowed a monster to get elected because nobody cares about trying to make leftists happy anymore. Lash out at someone else who actually deserves it.
Fucking hell, this is why we'll never have nice things. Our side is just as emotional but not quite dumb enough to unify and focus on one target.
First of all, I’m not going to apologize for attempting to comfort anybody. There is no privilege in that.
Secondly, I get you’re mad and scared/worried (or whatever adjective you prefer for how you’re feeling right now), but let me assure you that I am not your enemy. Do not follow in your neighbor’s footsteps; focus your anger where it belongs: the establishment, and billionaires. They are the threat. Not you or me.
Just want to call out, there is harm in false comfort. Building a false sense of security and optimism can encourage people to not take preventative actions. Not every storm blows over.
Every storm blows over; just like each person reads my story differently.
My intention was to acknowledge that things outside of our control can and do happen, and that they can wreck our lives in various ways. It was also meant to demonstrate that panic and thoughtless reaction are not the best courses of action. Through thoughtfulness, and community, any disaster can begin to heal. In no way should that diminish anybody’s struggle.
Is it a ~~perfect~~ good analogy? Not for everyone; maybe not even for anyone. But yes, the storm will subside eventually. The question is whether or not the damage done can be repaired.
Do with that what you will.
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Turn that despair into anger!
Anger is like fire. It burns hot, but it needs fuel, and leaves behind nothing but ash.
I've been angry for a long, long time. Now I feel tired and broken. Nothing left but the occasional ember in the cinders.
I'll recover, I'm sure. But not today. And probably not tomorrow. Probably not for a while.
Lucky for you, I feel enough rage for the both of us. I am consumed by an unquenchable bloodlust of such magnitude that I genuinely do not feel like the words exist to properly describe it. All of these fascist fuckers think they are about to make us 'find out' but boy oh boy have they been doing a lot of fucking around.
I will not go quietly when they come for me or my neighbors.
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I never get tired of that follow up comic. It's just too real.
In case anyone reading hasn't seen the full thing:
https://thenib.com/this-is-not-fine/
Just needs some of the text updated to current news.
I hope we get to the point where the fire can be put out. We're currently in the stage where the accelerant is being poured out everywhere.
Comic is too optimistic because here the fire was extinguished. In reality the fire has only gotten larger and is surrounded by all sorts of volatile elements.
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