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[–] M600@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

How is it not illegal for her to say these things? Like is that a threat against the United States?

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Depends.

Protected by the first amendment, one can legally advocate for the dissolution of the Union ~~through bicameral ratification outlined constitutionally~~ by constitutional amendment. To advocate for armed insurrection or violent overthrow of the federal government is sedition and considered quite illegal.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I was told there is nothing in the constitution allowing for secession.

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[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really illegal if the law isn't enforced? Is anything a Republican does illegal anymore?

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

"illegal" is rather a quaint notion.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (25 children)

.......yeah, ok. Sounds good.

moves to California

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 52 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't threaten me with a good time lady.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Right? The country is split basically 50. This seems like the obvious thing to do.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldnt say that. Left and right leaning people are mixed all over the country. It's not like the civil war when people were geographically located where the states wanted to cecede.

Point is, my comment was a joke. If the U.S. fractures into a bunch of smaller countries, its not going to be a good time for anybody.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

The right in a deep blue state tend to have more in common with the Democrats then they do with Conservatives in a deep red state.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

It'll be a good time for the richer states once things settle down tbf.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, with what I'm genuinely concerned is going to happen, that would probably be preferable. Give everyone some notice, and we can escape the nutjobs by being homeless in California and New York instead of concentrated in camps in Florida and Georgia. I mean, it'll inevitably make the blue state nation more conservative as they blame southern refugees for all their problems, but it'd still be better more than likely

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The notice is now. I’m getting out of Ohio for that reason.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 37 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

So they know that Texas doesn't have a GDP high enough to even run all their red catastrophies, right? I'm kidding, I know they don't know. They probably also don't know that CA would be the third largest super power if they ever let us go. Which they won't. At all.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 39 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Californians are in an abusive relationship. Blamed for everything and not allowed to leave

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

And we pay them more money than we use for ourselves.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 69 points 1 day ago

that's not… usually what you do win you win. so like… honestly… okay, kick me out, let me be governed by a saner government. also DC is between two blue state so good luck evacuating back to your conservative safe space, dumbass

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean... as long as California takes Colorado and New Mexico with it, I see no real issues with that. We get the economy, the nature, and the nukes.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 23 hours ago (5 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Something that I learned recently makes this flag make absolutely no sense.

The bear on the flag of The Republic of California, is extinct, and has been since the 1920s. Therefore in the Fallout universe, that bear is also extinct. None of them could have mutated into the two headed version. Where the heck did this flag come from?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

They still would have had the original California flag; the NCR flag would have been based on it, probably to deliberately harken back to the time before the restructuring of the country into the 13 Commonwealths divided the state in two

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We'll bring along Oregon and Washington, at least the west halves, and call the country the Collective of American States.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Aren’t the nukes in Montana and the dakotas? Though I’m under the impression we also keep some silos in the rural northeast.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Here is a handy map of some of our nukes as of 2006 https://uploads.fas.org/sites/4/NotebookMap.pdf

But also? The expertise to maintain and build nukes are very much California and New Mexico as that is where the three major NNSA labs and their support facilities are.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Did not expect the distribution to be like that, especially with blue states having nearly as many as red and swing states combined. For anyone curious: Blue state nukes-4324 Red state nukes-2266 Swing state nukes-2454

Washington really surprised me but it makes a lot of sense actually. I knew there were none at Wright patt because you learn that growing up in Dayton, they can’t risk the aliens.

And yeah I knew albequerque is one of the most critical cities for our ability to project nuclear force and that we make and test them in New Mexico and that Colorado is home to norad command. I just had also thought there were some hidden in Appalachia in upstate New York or something or one of the other eastern mountain ranges

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Swing states might have voted Trump, but those coward tards would follow the money in a secession situation, so I think the majority and their nukes would be on the sane blue side

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Predictable. The donvict-humpers supposedly "win", and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?

I suspect it's because for this brief period of time, anyway, it's hard for them to avoid just how HATED they and their precious golden donvict truly are. They thought they'd "win" and all the normal Americans around them would just disappear. And yet, Karens like Green continue to get confronted by normal people.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The donvict-humpers supposedly “win”, and then get even MORE angry. Why so angry?

Because we've stolen their martyrdom from them by losing.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is outrageously anecdotal but the trumpers I know were all grins on the day after until they realized we weren’t gonna just get over this and they just labeled themselves. They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago

They seem pissy now, and one in my office in particular that used to chat with me about sports is really broken up I don’t want to anymore

Yeah, the Professional Left did an entire section about this and they mentioned the case where some husband is completely gobsmacked that his wife filed for divorce.

But yeah, I've seen the same thing and heard about it from others. Lots of quiet interactions about how so and so is a big proponent of donvict; don't invite him/her to {whatever social function}.

The refrain of "yeah, but let's just agree to disagree" - I can see why many people, especially those most at risk thanks to what they wan, are thinking: "YEAH, FUCK THAT. You just voted to harm me, and you want to act like it's just a disagreement?"

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[–] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

California would do so much better on its own I feel like

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 39 points 1 day ago

Blue states pay more in taxes than they receive, and vice versa with red states. We are literally funding them dragging us all backwards.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

5th largest economy on the planet by itself.

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[–] Daze@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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