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SCOTUS asks US government for its view on $1 billion Sony v. Cox case.

Case file: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/supreme-court-may-decide-whether-isps-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 13 minutes ago

What about, please hear me out, what about gun manufacturers?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Let's also make the government liable for criminals using the roads.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

Might as well extend this to cell phones. Should providers be liable for everything that's said over those calls?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Should car manufacturers be liable for drunk drivers, stolen cars, distracted drivers etc?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's a little different. I think auto manufacturers should have regulations that help protect drivers when they're not driving at their best. Things like seat belts are a simple example.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 3 hours ago

That's a little regulation, not liability or mandating control of the product's use.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 48 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

The Supreme Court signaled it may take up a case that could determine whether Internet service providers must terminate users who are accused of copyright infringement.

This is insane. If this was to be ruled in favor of, it could be used to stifle dissent just by saying someone violated copyright. Fucking dangerous shit, and shouldn't even be considered, which is probably why they'll rule that it's totally cool to do.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 5 hours ago

Especially when you're considering that anyone who has ever shared a meme has engaged in minor copyright violations.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

It's gonna suck when my work gets shut down when someone starts torrenting on the Wi-Fi.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It doesn’t seem in the ISPs interest to pursue, they would just lose customers. Unless they also provide cable/satellite television services.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 33 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Should gun manufacturers be liable for user's murders? No? Then fuck off and leave ISPs alone...

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thats not a good comparison, guns are designed to kill (whether good or bad, legal or illegal)

ISPs or internet has quite a lot of other uses than piracy.

Your intent is right, but the example is wrong...

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah, it's a great example, for exactly the reason you said.

The argument for holding gun manufacturers liable is BETTER than the argument for ISPs, so if it doesn't work for gun manufacturers, it DEFINITELY doesn't work for ISPs.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago

Is Southwestern Bell liable for what I say on the telephone?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is a tough one since there is no clear "this side is owners and the other side are just worthless regular citizens we don't give a fuck about." Both sides of this one are owners. SCOTUS must really be in a bind here.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago

so blurry, in fact, you see comcast on both sides.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 points 11 hours ago

I honestly don't know what an insane court would rule either way.

[–] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Should a swordsmith be responsible if I cut someone?

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are you from Toledo or 1200 BCE?

[–] Someplaceunknown@fedia.io 2 points 6 hours ago

Both actually