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Summary

President Biden recently authorized Ukraine to use longer-range U.S. missiles to strike inside Russia, marking a small but overdue escalation in the conflict.

This decision aims to disrupt Russia’s military operations and bolster Ukraine’s position, especially with the potential Trump administration favoring pro-Russian policies.

Russia’s retaliatory missile strike on Ukraine, though deadly, represents more of the same tactics.

Analysts argue Biden’s earlier caution was excessive, and calling Russia’s nuclear bluffs is strategically necessary to counter further extortion.

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 40 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Biden isn't escalating the war, he is slow-walking the aid. Too much to die, too little to live, as the Ukrainians say. If you give Russia 9 months to pull critical assests out of range and only allow strikes deep into Russia after a whole nother nations enters the war on the side of Russia, you can't frame that as escalatory, no matter how much Putin bitches and moans.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

Hmmm. My idea of the process is a little different. Embedded CIA reports to the DOD on daily to and fro of the war. What the Ukrainians needed yesterday isn't necessarily what they will need tomorrow. Wars evolve. The DOD takes this information and projects future needs leading to a budget recommendation to Congress. Congress creates a budget bill and passes it. Johnson sitting on that bill, BTW, put Ukraine behind the 8 ball. Biden uses that allocation to buy weapons per the DOD recommendations. Rules placed on weapons use, such as not using US missiles on Russian ground, are meant to stop escalation into NATO entering into the conflict. In fact when that rule ochanged there was an escalation, but not involving NATO, yet.

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe -5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's way too late. Unless we are pro-war now it would've been better to make a peace plan before the other guy is in office.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The only peace plan is the Ukraine disposing Putin.

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe -5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Which will only happen if we have WW3. Let's be honest.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually pretty doubtful that Russia still has much of a nuclear capacity. Maintaining a nuclear arsenal is very expensive, and the Russian oligarchs have been embezzling massive amounts of money from the military.

They've had to resort to asking NK for help, so I don't think they have a good chance of winning the current conflict, much less an actual NATO power.

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It takes 26 minutes and 40 seconds for a ballistic missile to get from a launchpad in Russia to the East Coast of the United States.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Cool then you don't have too much time to worry.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

So the options are WW3 or cede Ukraine to Russia.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

The right thing, done far too late.