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It's not the clearest photo, but it clearly has both 2 thumb sticks and 2 track pads.

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[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 7 minutes ago

I've pretty much been asking for a steam deck without a screen, so if this leak is accurate than I for one am fucking STOKED

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 2 hours ago

I hope not. To get to the sticks you'd need giant hands.

Non concave? Square trackpads? Clear preference to analog sticks? This seems like a worse Xbox controller on the surface. Unless the ergonomics are somehow amazing I would be hesitant to buy it (and I own an original steam controller).

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 hours ago

This thing looks almost as big as The Duke.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I fear that, just like the Steam Deck's controller, it won't be usable without Steam running. IMO by default and without any special "driver" running in the background, the sticks and buttons should just behave like a Xbox controller.

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

The original Steam controller worked without Steam running, even including some of the extra features like mouse and scrolling functions for the trackpads if you wanted it to. So here's hoping

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 51 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It could just be my screen, but that render is hard AF to decipher. Here's a quick n dirty curves manipulation to get better contrast.

Awww, poor guy looks sad

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Those trackpads better have damn good palm reject because getting to those thumbsticks without brushing the trackpads will be impossible for many people.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 13 minutes ago

People were saying that about the steam deck before it came out. Maybe some people have had issues, but anecdotally I've literally never heard one complaint about that from someone who actually used the device. The way the joystick is elevated above the pad your palm really shouldn't touch it

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 57 minutes ago

Aside from I don't think that will actually be an issue, the thumb sticks are likely to have touch sensitivity on top like the steam deck ones have. So they can just disable the TouchPad anytime the thumb stick is being touched.

Again, though. I don't think it will be an issue with your palms.

[–] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you - I couldn't see the buttons between the track pads before. Does anyone have an idea what that might be?

[–] flyingSock@feddit.org 12 points 8 hours ago

if its the same as steamdeck, those are the steam and ... (status) overlay buttons.

[–] shatteredsword@lemmy.world 38 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Anyone got a non-xitter copy of this news?

[–] Vinnyboiler@feddit.uk 55 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Thank you kind person.
Looks like they want to bring back the Duke

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[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Give us the circle pads back! Just keep making the steam controller actually, with another back paddle, hall effect stick... Damn squares.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago

Honestly not having a dpad and second thumbstick is a deal breaker for me on the original steam controller, it means that most games with built in controller support don't work well without switching to a custom or community layout. I think having a "normal" controller layout + trackpads/etc is necessary for the controller to succeed.

Additionally, having this layout means it will match the Steam Deck, which should make all control profiles interchangable.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 51 minutes ago

Square pads are where it's at until you start playing on a round TV screen. Besides, it's way easier to set up hockey buttons in a square Touch Pad than a round one.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I was going to say that if you wanted one they're cheap on eBay, but after checking, they're $50+

[–] DualPad@lemmy.one 15 points 11 hours ago

I love my Steam Controller. I still use it majority of the time over my playstation, nintendo, and xbox controllers because of the touchpads.

But, I didn't like using the touchpads on the Deck because of the size, shape, and orientation making it a regression for maining the touchpads for the games I play. So not surprised by the leak, since Valve would obviously be better off focusing on making the ergonomics better for joystick users than touchpad users. Still let down because it'll mean for touchpad focused users like me Steam Controller is the only touchpad centric controller on the market with great ergonomics, size with 40mm concave pads, and circular shape for more consistent swipes.

But, it is discontinued and the gyro feels aged compared to the options out there. Will still be using it though from the looks of it for years to come hoping for an eventual dual pad centric controller from some niche group.

[–] PseudoKnight@lemm.ee 20 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Looks good. I just hope they bring back two-stage triggers, as those are missing from the Steam Deck.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What's a two-stage trigger? Analogue until it's all the way down, then a click (like the GameCube)?

[–] rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

This is correct, linear trigger with a click at the end very useful in desktop mode to have it slow the mouse movement with a trigger pull and then the trigger click for the mouse click.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 54 minutes ago

You haven't just been using the TouchPads in desktop mode?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The Deck triggers don't have a physical switch at the end, but Steam Input does have soft pull and full pull mappings as well as settings to change when and how they activate.

[–] nous@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Not quite the same as you have no tactile feed back on when you are about to enter the full pull part.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh that's cool, I'd not even considered using it to control a mouse

[–] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I got an 8bitdo controller (ultimate 2C or whatever), and it feels really nice. Except the triggers are not two-stage. And it's smaller.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 13 hours ago

I love it. Absolutely buying one.

[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 22 points 13 hours ago

Makes sense that it would match the inputs on the Steam Deck.

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