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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (27 children)

Guys if you keep heating your houses to 15°C or more you're the cause for climate change and the corporations can't blow petawatts on their AI data centers c'mon don't be so selfish

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My flat grows mold if I leave it under 18C for too long and my landlord doesn't care 🥴

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Mmmm, mold.

I’m right with you on that though. Small basement apartment with a concrete floor that was built in the 1930s. Yep. Mold.

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 16 points 11 hours ago

Yeah how else will ChatGPT tell you how to distribute (a^2 +b^2)(c^2+d^2)? /s

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, me heaters are set to 16°C 😢
In my defence they don't go any lower than that for some reason

[–] DV8@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago

Some reason being that if you don't maintain a certain temperature in your house you'll get mildew problems.

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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

True, but also let's not just let ourself dash toward suicide. Society is not meant to sustain nudism in the middle of winter 24/7.

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 5 points 9 hours ago

Just wear a sweater bro

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[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 141 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

It's gonna get down to -30°C this week, I'll turn the heat off and just throw on the good ol' toque and a sweater and report back, assuming I still have fingers.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 45 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Same here.

But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.

I'd be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I keep my place at 15.5c in winter because it’s super drafty. (I’m getting the siding redone soon, I really hope that helps, but ultimately we have the same climate as Siberia so there’s only so much to be done) even at 15.5, it’s still about $200 USD/mth to heat, but at 18c it more than doubles in cost.

I’m like your wife; made for warmer climates. My ideal temp is around 30c, and I’m cold at 23, but I have heated mattress pads on my bed and couch (much much much cheaper to run than furnace) so it’s not too bad overall. They are a bit pricy up front, but definitely worth the spend.

Perhaps that sort of thing would be a good compromise for you two; a couple heated chair covers or couch cover or something to bring her temp up while keeping the overall temp lower.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

26?! Hell, I can't even sleep if it's above like 20C in my room. My bedroom right now is 10C (vents blocked to keep it extra cold) and that's about the perfect sleeping temp. I'd go that cold in the rest of the house too but my pet snake probably wouldn't appreciate it.

[–] python@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

snake tax snake tax snake tax!!

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you get nightmares, sleeping in the cold like that?

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[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Funnily I'm from a more temperature country and she's from where I'm at now, but she's the one that is always cold and wants to keep it at ~22. I ain't gonna argue considering she pays the electricity bill, though.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Team 23.5 represent! My toesies are cold but the rest of me is alright!

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago

I grew up in cold but have spent almost two decades in humid subtropical. If it's 20ish outside, I usually won't turn on the heat, but 23 if it gets any colder (though that's in part because old japanese house loses heat like crazy. 21 is good for me)

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[–] Shieldtoad@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 hours ago

I have to turn on the heater for my cats or else I'll suffer the consequences.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 58 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Never mind things like water, pets, children...

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 38 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah, nah, I'm on the side of the government paying for utilities. Human right to electricity. Figure out a system to prevent overuse, but everyone deserves to have heating and cooling when needed.

That said, definitely wear a sweater in the winter if you can. Acclimate to the season and you'll hate going outside a lot less, and need less heating in the winter. I typically don't heat most of my home in the winter (I don't have central heating). I just use a space heater in whatever room I'm in, and move it to the next room with me, and wear warm clothes. I'm in Tennessee, which routinely gets well below freezing in the winter. Not ideal, but it works

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Figure out a system to prevent overuse

If we're going down the "government should pay for it" route, then a good solution would be subsidizing thermal insulation. It's a big investment upfront, but will save a lot of money for both homeowners and the government in the future. Not to mention the obvious ecological benefits.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I feel like it already is. Just not always from the government. I put three pallets worth of insulation into my attic(~$1500) and between the rebates from the gas and power company it ended up costing me like $350. I did have to front that cost though and the paperwork was kind of a pain. Had to draw a scaled picture of my house with the part of the living area covered with insulation on graph paper. They don’t pay for over the garage.

Just looked at what I bought again and insulation has gone way up in price. It’s close to $2500 now. No idea if the rebates also went up but I kind of doubt it.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

If a sweaters enough you must live in a warm ass place.

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

OK, OP... where do you live that a sweater is "enough"?

Denver, CO checking in and I'll take my central heat, thanks.

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 12 hours ago (14 children)

Americans should start building their houses like Europeans. Made from brick, mortar and good insulation. Your houses are made from wood and paper.

[–] dafo@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago

looks around at countless houses made from wood I guess northern Sweden, which gets below -30°c every year, lost its European status.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 29 points 9 hours ago

Nothing wrong with wood as a construction material. The key factor is the insulation.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You do realize that there's insulation in those walls right. That's the whole point of wood frame construction; you stuff the gaps between studs full of several inches of insulation. Besides, most of a homes heat loss isn't through the walls anyways. It's through any openings in those walls (windows, doors, etc) and through the roof.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

More insulation, double or even triple glassed windows. My in-laws have half the insulation on the walls compared to my parents, roof wise my parents got 2.5 ft insulation

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago

Isn't the whole point of woodframe construction to use wood?

Europeans still have insulation in the wall cavity.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Such ignorant shit

./confidentlyincorrect

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Earthquakes would say otherwise for at least part of the US. Also, without full-time mechanical ventilation, that would be misery in a lot of the US. The climate is also different to some places in Europe and varies hugely on US region

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I wish I had control of the thermostat. It would be 60° year round.

Edit: Forgot Europe exists 60°F = 15.56°C

Also does any one still call it centigrade?

[–] B312@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bro said Europe as if the rest of the world uses shitty ass Fahrenheit

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 8 hours ago

That would be freezing to me, but we live in a place that rarely dips much below freezing and gets super hot with high humidity. Humidity + cold also sucks. We were like 23 today (70something) and have a number of days over 35 in the summer (with 90+ % humidity). I work outside in that heat so I'm much more acclimated to that

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

My dumbass old housemates would run the heater without closing the windows…

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