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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

This is gonna kill people from the input lag alone.

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

scammers pull the same shit over the world since the mechanical turk. at this point the joke's on us.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

ahahahahahaha!!

That's freaking hilarious. Muskie is an idjit.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 hours ago

Tesla would not be the first robotaxi company to use this method. In fact, it’s an industry standard. It was previously reported that Cruise, the robotaxi company owned by General Motors, was employing remote human assistants to troubleshoot when its vehicles ran into trouble (the vehicles appear to have run into trouble every four to five miles). Google’s Waymo is also thought to employ the same practice, as does Zoox, the robotaxi firm owned by Amazon.

Ah, the old mechanical Turk trick. This time with chance of man slaughter.

[–] Juliana@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I thought the machine and Robot are gonna do everything lol

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

That's expensive bro. Just get a poor person to do it for next to nothing.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The self-driving taxis and humanoid robots companies like Tesla are developing are just a thinly disguised way of getting around immigration law. We're a very long way away from having autonomous humanoid robots that can clean your house for you. But one remotely piloted by someone in Bangladesh wearing a haptic suit? If the tech was cheap enough, that sort of thing would be profitable.

It's effectively an extremely perverse and exploitive form of immigration. When we bring immigrants in, they typically take low-level jobs. But they also get opportunities to advance themselves further. Moreover, in the US at least, any children immigrants have on US soil automatically become US citizens. So yes, immigrants come in on the bottom of the social ladder, but they have an opportunity to climb.

Here though? This is a way of getting all the labor we want from immigrants but without offering them the usual deal in return. And even worse, they won't even be owed minimum wage.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Not only that, there is now a middleman involved so the citizens still get screwed instead of being able to access cheap labour directly.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 117 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Ah yes, you know what's better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 78 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

also one that has no personal stake in the safety of their driving

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah, but you're ignoring one thing. I don't have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn't talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.

Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This really just comes down to people in a certain income brackets are uncomfortable being in close contact with a working class person.

That's why they don't like trains, that's why they don't like taxis.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say "im forced to take public transit" like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My father when he visits the city to see me refuses to use the subway, even though it's a five minute ride from where he parks his car - he ubers instead. It's because he is frightened being trapped in a box with the poors.

When i got into work, coworkers asked me how i got in and i said Subway, they joked about having to avoid getting stabbed.

My friends are voting conservative in the upcoming election because they've seen too many poor people on the street engaging in anti-social behaviour (being drunk, and talking loud)

It's fucking insanity to me.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

People who don't drive themselves will be responsible for the UI of all this.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So does he now want people working from home or not?

He's very inconsistent.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

Oh, don't mistake. They'll still have to go into an office, they'll just be driving the cars remotely, most likely.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

"How was your day, honey ?"

"I killed thirty people in a pile-up on Hwy74 remotely. I'll be a little late."

[–] Juliana@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago
[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

3 weeks later:

"Your honour, it was the ping!"

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Objection! Speculation!

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

Prosecution calls first witness; my teenage neighbor nemesis, his 28.8k baud modem, and Warcraft2

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 38 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

And to quote the comic:

"Crowdsourced steering" doesn't sound quite as appealing as "self driving."

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[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 110 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Remotely control”, or “drive” if you will.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only with worse vision, worse reflexes and probably worse pay

[–] Rykzon@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And without survival instinct or adrenaline to distract during decisions, great!

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Crazy Taxi: The Movie!

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 22 points 23 hours ago

Worse pay and worse working conditions is the killer app of “tech” these days.

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago

I'm in, with generations of GTA experience

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Hey more jobs for taxi drivers and safer to do from the comfort of your home. Just like a drone pilot!

Who would have thought that Taxi drivers one day would be able to work from home?

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lots of taxi drivers are already reckless. Imagine if they can drive remotely!

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll be driving multiple cars at the same time, while drunk.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Can't wait for the first 8 year old to be on trial for manslaughter because his dad had to go to the bathroom but didn't want to lose his fare.

That's not how any of this works.

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[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 19 points 22 hours ago

Nah, they'll still have to come into the office 3-4 days a week for "collaboration" and "cross-team building". But they can do their drone whatsyhootzit from their cramped cubicles!

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Waymo is doing the same. Mostly self-driving but when they get stuck a human at a help center takes the sticks. There are a lot of edge cases in the real world so it makes sense to just have the car programmed to be very conservative and let a human deal with it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 19 points 22 hours ago

My concern is that some driving situations need to be resolved immediately. That handover could be an issue.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Just subreptitiously sell it as a video game, you won't even have to pay the drivers. I don't see what could go wrong with this plan.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 11 points 20 hours ago
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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Basically what the self driving food delivery robots do in Berkeley, then

They are pretty autonomous, but if they get stuck then someone in Colombia takes control

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yarp. This all being sensationalized before we see the actual product and see how it is being implemented. They aren't remotely driving cars at 50mph down a highway, they are going to remotely tell the car to pull over when someone puts a cone on the hood at a stop light as a prank, or if it gets stuck where it believe it may hit something in every direction, where it is stopped and someone will evaluate the risk via the cameras and guide the car in the best direction. So likely you need 1 person for a very large number of cars.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago

Should be totally shut down until self diving is perfected. Shouldn't even be allowed the chance to lie about it.

Also they should get taxed into the ground. Like $5,000 Bill for signing a new customer up, and $60k every time the service is used. Daddy Warbucks can afford it and he be fixing the economy.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I'd like to volunteer, just add a strong wheel

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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