this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.


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I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

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Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 105 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm just here to point out that everyone's going to use the downvote button as a "disagree" button and the upvote as "agree," and there's nothing anyone can do to stop us. You can't hold back the tide.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes.

As an anarchist, I am keenly aware that rules are merely suggestions, and are utterly meaningless when no system exists to actually enforce them.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 19 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

The whole thing is all just made up. There are no "rules" written down like there are for software systems. There are just shared habits and models of the world, and traditions for how to react. In general, people agree and keep it all consistent enough from day to day that the rules in their heads translate into behavior and dependable systems in the real world. But it's all just made up. It's just people deciding what to do, every minute, in every society, based on what they decide in their brain, no matter how strict the "rules" that supposedly exist are.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 2 weeks ago

dios mío, A LIBERAL!

I think they should make a post addressing this but it is pretty funny to see people's reactions

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago (12 children)

PTB, comments celebrating a person who's horrible are not encouraging violence. This is clearly an attempt from the mods to push their agenda. Their replies here in this thread support this theory.

for me i consider human life sacred and despite the mistakes of this person only God may judge us.

I think this comment snippet speaks for itself honestly.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 43 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

looks like most of the mod actions you are looking at were done by little_cow (do not tag or harass) who has actually been fairly decent and understanding in my interactions with them.

very likely these actions are being done by threat of the .world admins, who cannot be replaced or swayed as it’s their property (servers) that host the content. not getting in on either side of this because honestly idgaf but if any of this upsets you:

vote with your activity and registration and stop using lemmy.world. i was here before they essentially made lemmy a centralized platform and trust me it was way cooler back then, it could be that way again.

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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not at all surprised by the negative talk, but removing the thread is a terrible look.

The news is still relevant, current, developing, and of interest to many people, including me.

Let people be jerks. If I recall, the first comment to be removed was about guillotines. Bad taste, yes, but c'mon.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

A 24 hour temp ban for celebrating violence is actually pretty reserved. Certainly not power tripping.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (24 children)

Counterargument: no.

E: To elaborate, the terms of service say:

"**We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature.**"

Merely expressing glee is not calling for violence or threatening a living creature. Banning someone for a rule they didn't break, for any duration, is overreach.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 24 points 1 week ago

CEO isn't even living anymore so they're not breaking the rule just based off that.

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[–] Vent@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Denying millions of legitimate claims that directly leads to many people being physically harmed or dying is violence on a large scale. So is lobying the government to keep healthcare in shambles for hundreds of millions of people.

It's a less visible, less gorey form of violence than a gun, but violence that begets mass suffering and death nonetheless.

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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lol I heard they were removing stuff but I was expecting, like, actionable threats of violence. This is just, like, "It's against the rules to fail to sufficiently mourn your cruel overlords."

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

It's a ban fest!

Glad I got in an "eat shit, mod" before I was banned.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Sorry for the double reply. I'll create a list of alternatives to .world communities here; I'll also add the ones you guys suggest, as long as not from .ml (as .ml and .world are apparently peas from the same pod.)

technology: !technology@lemmy.zip

politics: !uk_politics@feddit.uk (UK), !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net (USA), !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca (Canada), !australianpolitics@aussie.zone (Oz), !politics@beehaw.org (allegedly world, in practice USA)

news: !world@quokk.au , !globalnews@lemmy.zip

comic strips: I couldn't find any general comm, but there's !cyanideandhappiness@lemm.ee and !thefarside@sh.itjust.works

microblog memes: !best_of_mastodon@sh.itjust.works , !whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works , nonpoliticaltwitter@civilloquy.com

political memes: !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca , !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com

memes: !memes@sopuli.xyz

ask lemmy: !asklemmy@lemm.ee

movies and animattion: !movies@lemm.ee , !showsandmovies@lemm.ee , !animation@lemm.ee . Specifically for Japanese anime there's ani.social (the whole instance).

EDIT: apparently the moderators apologised, including in this thread. So what I said that both are peas from the same pod might be inaccurate - it's a matter of scale.

.It's funny that, when I created a list of .ml alternatives, some entitled prick was lying/assuming/bullshitting that I was trying to kill LW - since I didn't list any LW comm. If the prick said the same now it would be true. [Still blocked because I got no time for assumers.]

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I find it very good that this community is becoming the de-facto central point to ensure mods are kept in check and that such comments can be made and found.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I want to say that this is a case where it's not clearly either a PTB or a YDI situation. The mods seem to be enforcing their comm/instance rules, albeit their rules in this instance seem over the top.

I wonder what kind of acronym would fit this description. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

Heh, I got a good chuckle at that comment removal. So glad I moved from there to db0.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 22 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

I'm torn between 🐰 and 🐇, but that's clearly a case of PTB.

All those comments boil down to "yay, he died!". This is not a call for violence dammit - the violence already happened, and it was done by an unrelated party. It is not a threat either, unless you expect the person to be resurrected and killed again.

If you don't want to see people to cheer for the death of shitty people, then create a rule for that dammit. Be transparent. LW is following the steps of .ml and Reddit to enforce rules in an obnoxiously opaque way, and calling its users a bunch of gullible trash - "I'm going to ban you and claim that it was for something you didn't, and the other morons/users/trash won't even notice it! lol lmao".


Whats the paradox of tolerance? // .world mods have never heard of it I guess.

It's worse than that. Someone who's too gullible to follow the conclusion Popper reached there would simply watch it and do nothing. They [likely the admins; I'm not sure on who, let us not witch hunt] are actually defending the intolerant.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

meanwhile on bluesky, there seems to be a celebration

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good Lord most of those don't even come close to being against the rules of that community.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, but they hit close to the personal opinion of someone who enforces the rules :/

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, .world is full of slightly right of center normies and pussies.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't comment on bans/deservedness. Lemmy is infested with mods/agents/bots that are pro empire/CIA/military paid protectors of disinformation and said empire.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not even a conspiracy. They spend billions every year trying to control the conversations online. The executives for many social media companies are former Mossad or CIA. Reddit admins used to have a post up acknowledging the astroturf farm at Eglin Air Force base as their highest traffic source.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

TOS you say?

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (45 children)

The bans seem to be lifted.

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