It would be incredible if they fumbled the prosecution because the cops were overeager dipshits.
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if the snitch doesn't get the 60k and the NYPD fumbles the prosecution US faith in policing will be at an all time low. Should have hired literal pigs instead of high school bullies. Much more trainable. 
#Shut the fuck up and only communicate through your lawyer.
First rule of fight club honestly. How can you fuck up something so basic?
obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Prosecution also referenced a “faraday bag” as part of their argument that Mangione engaged in “criminal sophistication”,
til I'm a criminal mastermind for using a ridgewallet
Yeah I was gonna say what’s next? Encrypted communications? Pseudonyms online? I would have expected criminal sophistication from the 3D printed gun and the subsonic bullets, not the bag.
- I lean towards believing him. Cops planting evidence, something they’re known to do, seems way more likely to me than him being the dumbest criminal alive after seeming to be the smartest criminal alive, and the cops managed to find him.
I think they found the pictures of Luigi in the hostel, decided “That’s our guy” despite no link between hostel guy and the shooter, tracked him down because they had his face and evidence of where he was going, and planted the evidence when they found him. That “manifesto” was written by one of the cops on their drive to Altoona.
The pictures of man in the hostel are very clearly a different fucking guy than the guy in the taxi who is also clearly a different guy from the shooter. They’re wearing different clothes and don’t even look that much alike.
- If Luigi was the shooter, I’m glad to see they’re going with the “I don’t know shit, they planted that, I’m not the guy” defense anyway, I think that’s his best shot. The only piece of evidence that actually connects him to the shooting is the shitty security footage of him shooting the guy. “That’s not me, that could be fucking anyone” is a great defense even if it was you.
It’d be hard enough to find a jury willing to convict him if he looked into the camera and said “My name is Luigi Mangione and I am about to murder Brian Thompson for what he did to my mother,” it’ll be even harder to find a jury willing to convict him for a video of a video game character creation screen’s default white man shooting someone.
chatgpt + usa police is actually bleak to think about now that you mention it lol
Still not convinced Luigi is even the guy from the hostel picture. Luigi has a prominent monobrow in his mugshot photo, the hostel dude doesn't. I get my eyebrows waxed due to being cursed with a monobrow and they do not grow back that quickly. The cops did not find the killer, they found a scapegoat to keep the ruling class happy. Him conveniently being caught with the murder weapon and same fake ID a week later in a random McDonald's just screams of planted evidence.
Grow your brow out! I just have a small patch in the middle and it rocks. Those assholes in Oasis never shaved theirs and look where it got them!
By now, you should've somehow realised what you gotta do
embedding messages to Luigi back in 1999
WHERE THE FUCK HIS LAWYER?!!!
Holy fuck, he might not end up JUST with a hung jury, but a full-on acquittal!
apologies for the TikTok
No need to apologize for using free speech.
The ones who should apologize are trying to ban it.
Kind of wild to me we have a statement of him claiming the money was planted but nothing about the gun or the handwritten manifesto that was basically a confession. Like....was he asked about that????
~~no~~ we don't know, it's possible this was only about what the state argued affected his bail
Bizarre. So basically either:
A) The state did not present those items during its request to deny bail.
or
B) They did, but nobody is reporting on what comment he did or did not make regarding them?
...that strikes me as a bit odd. Edit: Ok not a lawyer so I don't know how this works but specualtion: maybe they didn't need to? Like during this proceeding is it possible they just got bail denied purely on the money and the bag and they didn't need to present the gun or manifesto in its request because the judge was already on board before they could get to it?
not an expert but I think bail hearing is about your flight risk, not about probability of guilt, so I find it believable that only the money and the bag were argued
Flight risk is a definite thing but I know enough to know its also about the severity of the charges and whether the suspect presents a potential danger if released. I find it really hard to believe that him having a "ghost gun" on his person which he plausibly carried across state lines wouldn't be an important argument that they would raise. My best speculation is just that was going to be their final argument, but they didn't get to make it because the judge pounded the gavel and said (cue law and order theme) "I've heard enough. Bail is denied."
yeah that explanation makes sense more than the others
"I know enough" isn't something someone who gets their trial law information from Law & Order should be saying. You have a very poor understanding of bail proceedings in the US.
LMAO, I don't even watch Law and Order. I was making a joke. Please do inform me where I'm mistaken in anything though if you are an authority on the subject. I fully admit to lacking any sort of legal credentials or experience in law enforcement. I'm just someone with an engineer brain trying to find logical explanations or fill in gaps on things that don't make sense at first glance.
The reporter mentions toward the end of the video that the ghost gun, silencer, and bag were described as "criminal sophistication" but it's unclear if they were brought up during the bail arguments, or if that's something that was referenced previously. He also mentions that Mangione said "I don't know about any of this criminal sophistication" which could be a blanket denial of all those items or just expressing disagreement with their conclusions.
Really would like a transcript to clear all this up.
cops plant evidence i have seen it done just to tack on more charges even when they have all the evidence they need.
"I'm not sure if it was planted" would be a normal thing to say if you knew you were a fall guy and some other shit definitely was planted