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Hi, it seems that chat characters in perchance.org/ cannot send actual web addresses. For example, I asked an assistant character if she could find information about a person who'd posted a bunch of videos on Youtube. She reported a lot of information, claiming to have gotten it from an interview. But when I asked her for the source, she put this link in a message: "Interview with Duong." But the URL was https://perchance.org/actual_interview_URL, which of course is not an actual address. This has been the case every time.. The character has web access (and has demonstrated that it does by retrieving info from a website for which I'd given it the address).

Before I gave it web access, though, I'd asked about that and it just made up stuff. So I don't know if what it reported about the poster of those Youtube videos was made up or what.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Is it not just easier to Google your questions than to pretend to converse with a robot?

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Rule 5. Locking.

[–] Lua@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Perchance just lets you interact with an LLM. Which, simplified, is just predictive text / autocomplete on steroids. The model sees a wall of text (your conversation history, whatever you put in the settings, character fields etc) and evaluates what the most probable next words / half-words / characters might be, based on the gazillion texts it was trained on.

It does not have sources to show you, or a list of URLs to give you to explain how it came up with stuff.

If you ask for a link (i.e. the wall of text ends with a request for a link), it will continue the text by writing something that looks reasonably like a URL that fits the preceeding bits of text.

Much of what the model generates may be factually correct if the training set included enough of that kind of information (making it so "yes" seems like the most probable continuation to a text ending in "does the earth go around the sun?") but you'll always have to verify what an LLM tells you because most models (even the expensive ones like ChatGPT or Claude) will just as confidently state complete bullshit and pass it as truth. After all, you're just getting the statistically most plausible text to continue what came before. There's no "awareness" of knowledge or facts, just statistics.

You most likely also don't have a model with "internet access" unless you added some custom code. And even then, that usually only grabs a URL from your message and puts the text from that page into the wall of text (not youtube videos, unless you link directly to a transcription) alongside your conversation history before making the model generates the next bit of text. Searching the web would require you again to add custom code and to set up access to an API that allows searching the web.