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The article seems to be shittily written in my opinion but I figure if you watch the video (about a minute) it will get the point across.

My question lies in, do you think this will benefit the health of the people moving forward, or do you fear it being weaponized to endorse or threaten companies to comply with the mention of Kennedy being tied to its future as mentioned in the end of the article

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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 115 points 2 months ago (34 children)

You know what would be way better than a symbol for "healthy" food would be requiring manufacturers to label food that fails to meet standards as "unhealthy." Bonus points if you tax it to death so it's no longer economically viable to sell garbage and label it "food"

Like, shit, the public perception is that I can't afford healthy food anyway. But at least if the unhealthy food was also labelled it'd be easier to avoid

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why is a Payday candy bar 1/3rd the price of a bag of peanuts with fewer peanuts than the Payday has?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Because peanuts on their own have to be visibly pleasing as peanuts or people won't buy them. When you put them in a candy bar, you can use the crap looking ones.

Also, buying in bulk drastically decreases the price. If you had the purchasing power of Hershey, you could get your peanuts really cheap too. Join a food co-op as a starting point.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for posting that. Honestly I would almost guess the article was compiled by AI, as it seems to assume you know information it has not previously mentioned.

If you notice it mentions the symbol multiple times but never shows it. (Not a symbol it can type) Where as a human would have written/drawn/ known it has to be shown or none of the references make sense.

Or I'm an idiot and they just are saying the term "healthy" is the symbol they are going to use?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I read in another article that the “healthy” symbol is currently under development.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is it an actual symbol or just the word?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, it’s gonna be some kind of logo that can be used on labels. Like I said, it’s under development currently. What it will look like, nobody is quite sure, in the article. I read mentioned that some critics believe it will oversimplify the matter of buying healthy food, and that it should be more like a label That has some kind of explanation.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Wondrously helpful to provide a link to the information's source page!!!

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (10 children)

And it will get reversed in a month...already heard Trumpicans calling it "woke".

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Damn librulz always tryna take my trans fats!

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

First, they came for frogs and made them gay, and I didn't speak up for I'm not a frog.

Then they came for my fats and made them trans.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ooh ohh, let me play ….

I didn’t speak up because I’m not a French fry

Then they came for my weekly paycheck and made it bi

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[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not really.

If you cook from ingredients, you'll usually be reasonably healthy. It's not impossible to make healthy prepared foods, but it's (comparatively) expensive enough that that, not awareness, is the main limitation.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

This is a good try, but no I don’t see it helping. Those of us who can afford healthier choices already do so.

My simplification is that most people fall into one of these scenarios

  • just need the cheapest, possibly emphasize comfort food - doesn’t matter what’s healthy if it’s not in your budget
  • proportions and quantity. This won’t help
  • prepared food, whether frozen or restaurant, is a disaster.

I fall in to the second camp. I generally know what’s healthy and try to get it, but I don’t succeed with portion control or proportions. If the wrong things still dominate your plate, and your plate is too full, it doesn’t matter if some things have a healthy symbol.

I have no idea how to fix people like me, but for the first scenario I really believe we need a financial incentive. Back in the old days you ate a lot of vegetables because what came out of your garden was the cheapest food. Now thanks partly to government subsidies, corn syrup is both the cheapest food, and appeals to our evolutionary desire for sweetness. Let’s start by redirecting those subsidies to support a healthier food supply, but yeah I think we’re going to need a vice tax

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Not subsidizing corn would be a good start. Why is HFCS shit cheaper than vegetables? Rhetorical question.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lower fat means more sugar. Have less of full fat products.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fat is a necessary macro, and the public's ignorant obsession with fat-free is crazy, especially since it almost always corresponds with more sugar, like you said. Guess what the body turns sugar into.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

And research is pretty clear now that it isn't fat that causes the problems, it's unstable glucose

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

Yes it is, including saturated fat, in limited quantities.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't that disagree with most of the mother'l sauces?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

Less sauce. But I've cut out roux based sauces, except occasionally. And occasionally I will use half and half for coffee and tea. Moderation in all things, including moderation. Also I do much less bread, mainly because proper flour in a food ~~dessert~~ desert is not easy to get, and store bought bread in the USA is gross.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OP, please reword title of your post to be an open-ended question.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, I just clicked the copy button as I thought it was one of the communities that required the title to match the articles title. (Jerboa doesn't show community rules on the side). Sorry about that

Edit: done

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know I'm an awful pedant who doesn't wurd gud either half the time, but you meant to say populace not populous in the title. Hope you don't mind me pointing it out :-)

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Haha thanks. Nah I added that part in to make it fit the community rules I violated by accident. Thanks for the heads up.

Constructive critiques are always good in my book. (Wish I always kept that demeanor)

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