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[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i am quite sure such programs allready exists for a long time.

everything you do on servers owned by american companys will get u scored.

the nsa has a folder for allmost every human who ever used the internet, and doing certain things will rank u up in score.

Once your score reaches a critical high, human may check your folder to see if u are just a courios child searching for diy fireworks or a potential terrorist.

If that human sees the remote chance that u are the second type, they then keep close taps on you.

And if they see u buying sketchy shit then may come to your door to check up on you.

Google once had the motto: "dont be evil".

People need to realize...they where not talking about themself.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just remember to Google the occasional obedient remark.

"Why am I so gosh darn patriotic?"

"Is it normal to never want to hurt the USA?"

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

i just paste whole movie subtitles into search line by line with a script....giving the NSA check person some culture.

Fun fact: after doing this for a few years u get plausible deniability cause everything u say could just have been another movie quote

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt the NSA is going to just knock on your door to tell you that they are watching.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

na they outsource that to the FBI i guess....NSA people cant go outside they would get sunburn

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Weren't they doing it since the snowden leaks?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes at the national security level. Now civilization police can do it directly.

Before the organizations had to coordinate and come up with an excuse for having the data, commonly referred to as parallel construction. Now they don't have to do that work

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Google, good, god bless the country of freedom

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

I think they have been doing that since the beginning of time (or at least the beginning of wired phones)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

I'm a computer engineer with over 30 years of experience. If I'd want to be a terrorist, they can Monitor google, and they wouldn't find me. They can decrypt WhatsApp and a few others and they'd still not find me. They wouldn't be able to find anyone halfway capable.

What they WOULD find is a lot of people just going about their day.

Makes you wonder who they're trying to target with all this shit.

Banning encryption won't stop child porn, not even a little bit

Monitoring google won't stop terrorism (or child porn) not even a little bit

Can we please Please PLEASE make a law that requires politicians to know what they're taking about? If a politician votes about banning encryption, he either know what it does and why it works or if he doesn't know, he.doesnt get to vote.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Duck duck go protects you from this, correct?

Why would anyone use Google after this precedent?

[–] hellequin67@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Headquartered in the US so I wouldn't guarantee it.
This was against Google specifically but I would imagine it would hold up against any US based search engine they felt someone was using.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, they must respond to a subpoena. But they don't retain search records, do they?

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Your statement contradicts their stated policy, and I'm not aware of any such requirement in the US.

https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

IP retention is addressed in the first paragraph under "privacy policy", and it stated they don't save or log it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you know? You don't control their servers

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your point is not unique: all websites require your trust.

So if that's your threat model you can't use any search engine.

But if we want to put that aside and discuss their stated policy, then the link I provided addressed the parent statement that

In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

Which directly refutes that there is any such requirement.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 11 months ago

You shouldn't trust any search engine. That's my point.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In addition to being based in the US, DDG has had some issues with allowing Microsoft tracking on their DDG Browser. Their search does not have the same issues, but it might be wise to use TorBrowser to search anything you'd rather not explain in front of a judge.

[–] online@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

And remember there's a Duck Duck Go onion service: https://duckduckgogg42xjoc72x3sjasowoarfbgcmvfimaftt6twagswzczad.onion Proof: search on duckduckgo for "duckduckgo onion" and a widget appears in the search results.

Alternatively, set your tor browser to always prioritize onion addresses in the settings.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

I think all search engines have this issue since law enforcement can step in any time.

The one exception might be proxy searches

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Does startpage (startpage.com) protect you from this?

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Guess I'll have to change where my VPN says it's logging in

[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Bui in messages to Seymour and his sister said he wanted to get back at the people who robbed him, stating, “They’re going to get theirs like I got mine.” Bui on Aug. 2, messaged Seymour and wrote, “#possiblyruinourfuturesandburnhishousedown”.

Hmm