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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by AshenWolf@hexbear.net to c/libre@hexbear.net
 

I feel like this was important to get out there. I don't know how many of you use DivestOS, but this also applies to the Mull Browser, which was a good browser and a common suggestion due to it being based on Firefox, and therefore not running in Chromium.

Unfortunately, it seems all of this is coming to an end. The software will no longer receive updates, and therefore should not be used anymore. I wish the users of DivestOS-related software luck in finding good replacements.

~~For a browser at least, Brave has good content blocking and basic protection. Overall, this is a pretty big blow to mobile Firefox.~~

Browsers, on mobile especially, are very subjective. Here's a table DivestOS provided on their site https://divestos.org/pages/browsers.

For the OS itself, it's probably back to stock :(. I mean, GrapheneOS is always there for pixel users, but most DivestOS users are not running it on a pixel.

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess I'll switch back to Fennec for now. I'm definitely never going to use Brave.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've never understood the Brave popularity.

[–] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Mull for some time now. Pretty good too. It's basically a privacy hardened Fennec

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah me too but the point of the post is that Mull will no longer be developed, hence why I'll have to switch back to Fennec

[–] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Oh shit I didn't know. Fuck.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

It's now the best chromium web browser on Android unless you're on Graphene, and one of the best on desktop when properly configured

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

I think it's because it provides a good level of content blocking and tracking protection while being very easy to use and get into.

On firefox mobile you can install desktop extensions, including ublock origin for ad blocking. Brave is cringe.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't use Brave. It's three crypto scams in a trench coat.

Mobile Firefox is fine. Losing Mull doesn't change that.

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there something better I could use? Vanadium's content blocking is bad, so maybe Fennec? On desktop, I use Librewolf for some things, Mullvad for others, and Brave for Cinny web-apps.

I usually just disable the crypto and forget that it's there, to be honest.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fennec, I guess. Maybe apply arkenfox or betterfox to it. I use Iceraven, but it's not guaranteed to get the fastest security updates.

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Does Fennec have access to about:config? Huge if true.

Edit: Iceraven is pretty nice, ditched Brave :). Still using Vanadium for web apps (like I already did), but I hope Iceraven continues to receive updates.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, fennec has about:config

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, Vanadium is a good choice for places you don't have to worry about content blocking.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That sucks, I liked Mull.

I'd rather use stock firefox than Brave. Why would anyone use brave? How many times have they been caught doing sketchy things like crypto mining or inserting trackers?

A good way to get browsers on android is through FFUpdater (repo, F-Droid) it includes various forks etc. Not all are directly available via F-Droid.

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As a tangent, there's also Obtainium [F-Droid] which can be used to download app updates, I use it to download Firefox beta straight from Mozilla

Curated list of apps that can be configured to be installed/updated with Obtainium

[–] glans@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I use obtainium for a couple of things; I'm glad it's there. I don't really understand the link though? All the stuff about configurations etc. I can see that there are lots of non-FLOSS packages mixed up in there.

One reason I like the ffupdater is that they are a bit more aggressive in their curation. Things gets removed if they are not good so I don't need to keep up on all the browser gossip. e.g. #35 #555

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing this. I use mull so this is relevant to me. Is there something like arkenfox for Firefox Android?

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

It's a pain in the ass, but you could install arkenfox or betterfox via ADB: https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox/issues/240

May require Firefox nightly, or Fennec, or Iceraven.

[–] proceduralnightshade@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Damn. DOS was one of my favorite projects and also my favorite ROM. Sad to see it go, but I understand why since it was a one-person team. Hopefully someone else will be able to fill the hole left by this, especially for maintaining the security of older devices to whatever extent is possible with mostly automated means.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just looked at the linked blog entry. Is there a particular reason?

Also damn... this actually makes me kind of sad to see such good software go unmaintained. Ofc the volunteering maintainers don't owe it to anyone to upkeep their projects indefinitely

[–] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Saw on a forum that the Dev wanted to move on, since they've been working on the project for 10 years.