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[–] LapGoat@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

metaverse failed because it lacked the digital cornerstone species.

if they wanted success, they should have catered to furries.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The only amazing thing about the metaverse was that some people believed the hype, and that people paid to promote it could do it with a straight face.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have enjoyed VR, but the "metaverse" angle was something largely no one asked for.

I'll admit even at its best it is still niche, but I have enjoyed it, particularly for simulation genre.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, VR is best as a solo experience. The metaverse idea comes from cyberpunk books and it is basically never presented as a good idea.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 174 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 84 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Within the billionaire bubble there was a lot of hype. Outside of that, not so much.

A new platform to colonize, gathering info on what people were looking at in the virtual world and selling that to advertising made their wallets go very erect.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think the biggest part was selling people fake clout for a nearly 100% profit margin. They were going to sell us virtual clothes and status ~~in mass~~ en masse for our very real money. Not that this doesn't already happen in gaming but it would have been expanded greatly

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Some people just love looking at themselves.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (13 children)

You're joking, but there are lots of people in VRChat that love spending a lot of time looking at their own avatar in front of in-game mirrors.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

My guess is that none of those avatars resemble their real bodies in the slightest

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just like 3D film and television. The VR stuff surfaces periodically with another iteration of the tech.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is typical of tech that hasn't yet hit the sweet spot for a tipping point.

Look at how many palm pilots or handheld note taking mobile devices existed (and how many cycles) before the iPhone.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think that's exactly what's needed, something that makes it mainstream without compromises. For example, if it came as standard with the PS6 and people could use it with all their games such as call of duty.

I don't see what could be the tipping point that makes this happen; Sony certainly isn't going to bundle a headset with the PS6, although I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo eventually tried something like this. What I know is that a legless version of the Wii avatars or a $3000 headset that requires you to carry a battery in your pocket wired to your head ain't it.

I think the big problem with VR headsets is that theyre kinda too niche on a baseline, they arent the cell phone theyre a wrist mounted computer. Does it have some uses? Sure. But I suspect it will remain largely niche along side racing or flight sim equipment, theyll probably have some military or industrial applications but will largely remain relegated to novelty items.

Funny enough I dont see AR glasses having such a strict issue, namely cause if you synced it to a phone you could use it for hud elements. For example caller ID, map display, or just playing a video in the corner. Though it may still have an issue with eye strain.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The only "metaverse" that gained any traction is VRChat and that's mostly just a way for furries to show off their character designs.

All the ones that started as a way to leech money from home working have gone nowhere.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To a surprise of no one. The headsets are fucking uncomfortable. Which doesn't bother me when the goal is a gaming session because I gain something that I like (playing immersive games) to offset it. But to see some fucking avatars of people for a meeting that most likely could have been an email or two? No thanks.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can wear mine for an hour or so. Any more and I'll be picking my glasses out of my face.

I'm not sure who would want to wear it for 8 hours a day every day. It's they think that people will embrace the corpo subservient life if only they can pretend they're in Minority Report...

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're pricey, but you can find prescription inserts for vr headsets.

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[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fortnite kind of evolved into a metaverse

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

That and Roblox, the commercially successful metaverses that zuckberg dreamed of.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There was never non-manufactured hype for it. I saw people who were paid to be excited about it be excited about it, and literally nobody else cared. Nobody else even knew what the hype was event supposed to be for.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I remember a bunch of people seeming sincere about it, and a lot of money was wasted on it, including from companies like apple.

I never understood why. It was so obviously a doomed idea from day 1

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Spatial compute seems cool still. VR raves are sick VR to let people with some disabilities experience more social scenes and some enhanced forms of remote work are very cool to me.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A VR headset would be nice as a monitor replacement for your pc. Or maybe an AR for media while doing chores.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love how my monitor makes me sick after two hours.

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Hard pass on that.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Only if it comes with a cooling fan, though. My face gets really sweaty when I wear a VR headset.

[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I always thought this metaverse crap was just an obvious money-making scheme that preyed on isolated people during COVID-19. They only started developing their metaverse platforms during the pandemic. Of course they all failed to capitalize because the world largely returned to normal while they were still flaunting NFTs and unfinished metaverse platforms that still can't do better than a private Minecraft SMP with your friends.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I suspect that it's one of those things that will happen at some point in the future, but we just don't have the technology and equipment ready for it just yet. I figure it's similar to AI research in like 2007 when they were able to put the computer on Jeopardy and have it compete against the contestants. It worked, but it wasn't ready for mainstream usage at the time.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (21 children)

The second life/metaverse/virtual reality concept will never be widely accepted by the majority of the population because it just isn't what the vast majority of people want. They want communication methods that compliment their real world lives.

Yes, it will probably be more popular at some point than it has been so far if they can pull off affordable ultra realism, but the escapism of virtual worlds appeals to a relatively small portion of the population. Not to mention that a lot of people have a limited amount of free time, and even if it was extremely popular at first, the novelty would wear off fairly quickly for most people.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I have no proof but also no doubts that the whole metaverse think was just a way for the Zuremborg Lizard Boy to sink a lot of money so his company had to pay less taxes.

He pushed it after he got called out by congress. So he probably thought, my billonaire company is going to have a lot of losses on this useless shit and you are not going to see my money.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

I reckon it's simpler than that. Zuckerberg has never really invented anything novel; Facebook was a straight clone of a whole bunch of competing social media sites (which just so happened to win the numbers war), and WhatsApp and Instagram were both acquisitions.

I think the Metaverse was Zuckerberg trying to prove to himself and others that he and he personally could come up with the "next big thing". The fact that he came up with something which absolutely no-one wanted (and most people barely understood) is a testament to why he never came up with anything ground breaking before, too.

[–] BangCrash@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Except for the payroll tax and the thousands of people it employees who also brought things.

Better Zucc waisting it on jobs than moving it to Panama and never seeing it again.

But, yes it should have been taxed regardless.

Actually you should still tax Meta. It's not too late

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Facebook wasn't behind it trying to make it a thing then it might stand a chance to become a thing.

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[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

*IF* they had pulled it off well we wouldn't all be here making fun of it. It would have been cool Well... by cool I mean let's say for argumnets sake they absolutely nailed the virtual hangout, so you got something that felt holographic it was so real. It would be cool to hang out with your friends that way (if being together wasn't an option) and it would be more bearable than zoom for a work meeting. At least it might have made non-verbal cues flow better and making virtual converstaion less of a ballache. If it had been flawless then it might have galvinised the movement to make working remotely the new default

Unforunately they didn't pull it off. But it was worth trying is all i'm saying..

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cope. The idea always sucked and made no sense. (Also I just hate Zuck and hope he gets Luigi'd 🙏)

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope all of these social parasites get Luigi'd, and anyone who doesn't is enjoying Stockholm syndrome.

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[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There were hype around this thing??

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Zuckerberg was so hyped, he renamed his entire fucking company Meta.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I bet Meta spent a lot of money to develop the Metaverse. Would they really just drop it.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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