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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

I love when a website on mobile has some animated component that keeps making the text move around while I’m trying to read the damn thing.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My work did a digital communication class that talked about how you should never start a chat with a question but rather start with "Hello'. It's infuriating

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Next communication rule: Start every question with "May I ask a question?" before asking the relevant question after the acknowledgment.

Or in verbal discussions, never think before you speak and to avoid anyone else speaking make a humming noise with slightly opened mouth emitting an "Uhhhmmmmmm" while you think.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 hours ago

Does anyone mind if I ask what this is in reference to

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Is this website assuming you take 5 minutes to type 7 words and that typing "hi" takes the same time?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a common Indian thing to type a greeting, then wait for a response before actually getting to the point. It drives a lot of people crazy, because now we have to respond back and prompt them to tell us what they need and wait for a response, which is frequently a while later, causing a lot of interruption to what might otherwise be productive working time.

It turns a "can you send me this info" 5 minute task into a multiple interruption pain in the ass

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

then wait for a response

That's offensive. 'Hello' means "I'm typing a quick wall of text, and please just wait like 1 minute because it could be a time-sensitive thing"

[–] gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just append the hello to the beggining of the wall of text.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

and if the conversation is already ongoing, just say that you are writing a wall of text, or write it all out without care, instant communication is a new thing but writing letters or quick mail inquiries are not. communication skills are so weird for some people.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You're never just on chat. You're always doing something else. The constant distraction and context switching is mentally expensive.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Do people type "hi" and then go do something else instead of typing the question?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, that's exactly what happens and what the page is about. People often type hi, and if they don't an answer right away, they get distracted with something else. Then I reply hi back, and the same happens again on my side. Maybe the delay is just the 30s each time, maybe is 2 mimutes. Sometimes this cycle repeats again because they ask how I'm doing! And each time I need to interrupt what I'm doing and state at the screen waiting. Instead of just quickly reading and immediately replying. There's literally no advantage to separate pleasantries in chat.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

People wait for a response after saying "hi"?

Why?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That question is the whole point of the website. Are you paying attention?...

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The website says to not do it, not why people do it

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 13 hours ago

I'm sure there's many reasons. I've no fucking clue. I just want them to stop.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

A lot of timid people want to see if the other person would even commit to a conversation. If you are the first one to start a conversation, and I see you do not fully commit with a half limp "hi" or "can you help" with no context or anything to tell me, then I will simply ignore it.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I agree very much, major pet peeves in a busy day

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 18 hours ago

Holy shit this is amazing.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's one guy at work who calls unprompted. If I don't answer, he messages me asking to call him back.

I don't call him back anymore. I can't know if it's going to be a 5-minute call or a 45-minute call so I assume the latter and I don't have time for that

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You can choose to answer the call or not, and the person calling should be okay with that. If they want you to call back they should tell what it’s about.

But getting mad at people for not asking to call as a blanket response is madness. (I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing, BTW.) Sometimes you can solve things with synchronous communication much faster than you could messaging.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You can choose to answer the call or not

.. and either way, my concentration is broken for (what researchers keep saying) is 30+ minutes.

Nah. I'm not in the mood to speak to THAT asshole after he wrecked my morning.

In the middle of a text chat, you say "call me and share your screen" and then we 'go voice'. Calling without warning, now, and without justification (visible flames or blood, timely health risks, massive outages), is like dropping by your cousin's out out of the blue for a week.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I didn't say I get mad that he calls without asking. My comment was about the "please call me back" - that message could have been the question. It's the same as "hi"

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think straight calling someone on a chat program is rude because it unnecessarily breaks flow. I have to connect my Bluetooth headphones so I can hear you from the start, but that takes a couple seconds. If I'm not quick you'll stop calling before I'm ready, and it happens frighteningly often that people don't answer when calling back immediately, so you'll break my flow a second time.

Usually, 15-30 seconds are enough for me to mentally "put away" whatever I'm working on, which allows me to quickly resume once we're done. Often I write a comment describing what my last thoughts were. That can sometimes save a good 5 minutes or more.

At worst I'll say "give me 5 minutes" or "if not important, does 14:30 work?", but that's because I'm deep in thought and it will take a long time to get back to where I am.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just don’t pick up, finish your thoughts and call back. You are absolutely under no obligation to drop everything to pick it up immediately.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Just don’t pick up

Consider this a way to train others -- calling gets nothing if you're not in my group or chain of command. Send an email or, if urgent, send a chat message.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

As I said, this regularly leads to breaking focus again a couple of minutes later.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same as "don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask directly"

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a member of a Discord server that's primarily used for support, and this happens way too often. I've taken to just reacting with a wave emoji and waiting for them to actually ask for help. Most of the time they'll just leave some time later, without ever asking a question.

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

In that case, as has been the case in other large discord servers I've been a part of, those are actually bots

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was my teams status for a couple years at my old job. I'll probably end up doing the same at my new job once I'm here long enough for it not to come off as an "overly aggressive new guy" move.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is how I learned about this site and one of my team has it as his status after I told him about it. Which is kinda annoying as it's always there in group chats. I have taken to just ignore hi and wait till I get an actual question

[–] Bearlydave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

So, ya have a movie for me?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was delighted to see the "don't be mad at the person who sent you here" link at the bottom was sent to a different and appropriate video in the Spanish version of the site. That's great localization work.

Edit: it appears only Spanish and Swedish have unique videos

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