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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 51 points 1 day ago

Given the known incidence of Long COVID, the current levels of transmission are generating an estimated 200,000 new cases of Long COVID per week.

Holy fuck, it's making us dumber. That explains a lot!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 147 points 2 days ago (4 children)

O RLY?

NBC

MSN

Colorado Sun

Sky News

Fox News has a Coronavirus Category with 5 new stories this month

If you're going to be an alarmist asshole you might as well avoid adding a bunch of lies to your headlines in addition to it.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

although i agree with the post title being a bit incorrect, and your comment of "alarmist asshole" not really called for, its not front page news and that's because people are over COVID and could care less while people who are at risk from severe infection are getting it and dying still. People are just going to get super sick and say "yeah its a flu covid is over so it cant be that"

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 29 points 1 day ago

“it’s totally silent if i plug my ears and totally dark if i close my eyes”!

thank you for your service. this is the type of post i wish would get downvoted to the floor. if we can’t get basic googleable facts right in !news@lemmy.world how can we have any hope for accuracy in reporting on climate catastrophe and genocide? hawt damb

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Given how silo'ed everyone's media consumption is now a days I find it entirely too plausible that someone could avoid any new COVID news.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

This is honestly the seocnt time I'm hearing about this. Though it may be out there, it's not front-page news for sure.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Getting a flu + covid shot is free or nearly free for every American that has health insurance. It may be less convenient, but there are places to get a free flu and covid vaccines, if Americans do not have health insurance. Anecdote: This year, I had zero side effects from the shots besides a sore arm!

[–] TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m ashamed to admit I didn’t realize the importance of getting a flu shot prior to living through the COVID pandemic. I do my best these days to inform people my age that getting vaccinated is about protecting others who might not fare against the virus as well as you might.

Zero side effects from my last flu + COVID booster. Get it done, even if you’re not personally worried about getting sick.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I went to a CVS and received both for free. I wasn't even asked about insurance.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What?! I went to CVS for my flu shot and had to pay $70 - the Covid booster was $120 or something like that so I ended up skipping it (I'm also uninsured).

Did I just get unlucky?

[–] rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really? Dang, I don't live in a blue state even. I'm sorry you had to do that 🙁 I do live in a particularly red area, in the past I have gotten the covid vaccine earlier than I was supposed to for my age group because nobody was going and they needed to use it.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did they likely have your insurance on file? I know that when I hit the pharmacy they never need to ask. Even for doctors offices, I've found different offices being different levels of worried. Some want to see my card every time, some once a year, and some seem content to try to file and only bother me if that fails later.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

Getting a flu + covid shot is free or nearly free for every American that has health insurance

that is a lot of conditions for the accessibility in a country notorious for people having no health insurance.

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My grocery store(Safeway) even gives 20 percent off groceries if you get your shot with them.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 1 day ago

Definitely everyone should be wearing masks inside in public this time of year.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  • It's less deadly
  • It doesn't sell stories
  • People aren't interested
  • People are vaccinated
[–] kipo@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But it can cause long-term and permanent damage to certain organs, and that is a pretty big reason to care. Unfortunately that fact doesn't seem to clear the hurdle of point 3 on your list for many people.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but so can alcohol, smoking, microplastics, and red meat. Heart disease is back to being the #1 killer of Americans, and humans still prioritize fear over serial killers and Bird Flu rather than heart disease and car accidents.

Humans are notoriously bad at assessing risk. It's a lot of work to overcome our cognitive biases.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Wonder why heart disease is number one killer of Americans, so hard to figure out /s

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You really don't see the difference between vices that a person chooses to ingest, and people spreading a potentially deadly/debilitating virus to a person unwittingly?

Really?

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, I understand the difference between communicable and noncommunicable disease.

The point is that media also rarely talk about these things, and people are not great at taking steps to mitigate their risk. Lots of things we can prevent, or not, still cause us lasting harm. But because those things are mundane, they are not clickbait-y enough to warrant regular coverage.

“If we don’t talk about it anymore, stop testing, stop taking statistics, it’s almost like it doesn’t exist and we can just focus on growth” —Corperate media funders, probably

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Copying from my comment when you posted this on another community:

The issue is that it’s less severe, partially because people have immunity and partially because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

But wastewater isn’t newsworthy. It never has been. It’s disingenuous to say the media isn’t covering this when ERs are NOT having issues and people aren’t dying.

Many doesn’t the media have mass coverage of the common cold? Why don’t they cover norovirus? Endemic shit that doesn’t kill people isn’t really newsworthy.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

This isn't true. It's a debunked theory from the 1800s. Viruses evolve chaotically, sometimes strengthening sometimes weakening. There's no general rule that they get weaker and COVID's reduction in lethality is due to other factors.

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's slightly disingenuous in that COVID is still very dangerous. The last time I checked the fatalities, which I believe had been those of the first week of November, there were somewhere around 400 deaths from COVID that week and 13 from the flu in that 7 day period.

I remember reading reports about the strains going around at the beginning of last year (Jan of 2023), and those were actually more dangerous and more infectious than the original strains were. But there were nowhere near the casualty rates because the vaccines work. But not everybody can get vaccinated, and every infection still has about a 20% chance of causing Long COVID despite the vaccine, which can be so crippling that it can put you on permanent disability or cause infertility (COVID is also stored in the balls, along with the pee).

The reason that we see the wastewater reports is because that's the only way that they're legally allowed to report infection rates. The government mandated that the CDC stop recording other rates sometime during the height of the pandemic, around the time that companies started pushing for an end to lockdowns and for grandparents to die for the economy because their grandkids would thank them for it. Also around the time that DeSantis tried to make the person running the COVID tracking website for Florida fake the numbers so that he could say that COVID was over.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

Of course people are dying. And getting long covid. And other organ failures

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I think the government has a good handle on COVID-19 now with more-or-less mass vaccination, so it's not going to cause mass deaths and disabilities.

I'm more worried about H5N1 bird flu, more currently the affect it's having on milk and egg prices (over USD$12/doz. yikes!) and the potential to mutate to direct human-to-human transmission.

From https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22401-bird-flu dated 12/5/2024

What’s the mortality rate of bird flu?

Overall, the mortality (death) rate for bird flu in humans is high — historically, about half of all people with known infections have died. But most recent cases in the U.S. have been mild.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except it is causing mass deaths. Have you read the 2024 numbers? Much lower than a few years ago but much higher than zero.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, I'll bite:

In 2024 up to week 50, there have been 45,447 deaths involving COVID-19. This is compared to 159,940 deaths involving flu or pneumonia and 2,892,661 deaths from all causes in the same time frame.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

For comparisons sake, traffic accident deaths in the first three quarters of 2024 were 29,135.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fortunately you can just not eat eggs and not consume milk.

You can't not breathe air.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Overall, the mortality (death) rate for bird flu in humans is high — historically, about half of all people with known infections have died. But most recent cases in the U.S. have been mild.

This is a good thing in immunology, actually. Diseases with extremely high severity rates tend to not spread through a population because it incapacitates their host too quickly- Ebola is a classic example. Fucking insane severity, but bad to the point where it hasn't ever spread to epidemic proportions because it's super easy to recognize then isolate. Ebola outbreaks have been (mostly, sans 2014) limited to small geographic areas of small populations.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

This only matters if it incapacitates the host quickly enough that they don't spread it, which isn't necessarily closely related to its deadliness. In the 1980s, AIDS was a death sentence, but that didn't make HIV less transmissible.

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