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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Exactly. Musk is using skill as a red herring to divert focus away from the tech industry layoffs and underpayment of imported labor.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 months ago

But if they don’t underpay workers, how will they overpay executives?

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Woah, woah, woah! Guys, Guys! This is conservative, we don't talk about worker's rights or unfair pay or exploitation!

We talk about bootstraps and opportunity and personal responsibility! We talk about what's good for American industry and what benefits America's robber barons!

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We do actually. We see a lot of same things you do, we just have different solutions.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yup! Y'all just blame gay people, Mexicans, libruls and Hunter Biden for all your woes then deregulate everything so that corporations can ~~keep fucking us over~~ let the wealth trickle down.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, I think liberals do deserve some blame for the current state of affairs.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is vague. "Liberals" and "liberal ideology" are just terms conservatives use when blaming others as well. It doesn't matter who.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OK you want me to be specific? Democrats. Democrats that are just as much in bed with Wall Street as any Republican. Democrats upholding the power structures that perpetuate systemic oppression and privilege to funnel the wealth produced by working class Americans into the bank accounts of the rich and powerful.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is no denying that. Both parties can be just as bad in that respect. The Democrat "neoliberals" are just as bad as perpetuating the "free market" myths as Republicans are with thinking that Reaganomics was ever viable.

However, the deregulation efforts of Republicans are about as blunt as you can get about funneling money to investors under the guise of "creating jobs" and "saving costs". The last Trump-era corporate tax cuts simply resulted in massive stock buy-backs that didn't change services much, but just pumped money back to the wealthy. The medical industry deregulation plans coming up will do exactly the same. (There is a reason why medical industry campaign contributions are only slightly skewed to the Right.)

Let's not forget how Republicans demonized and gutted the ACA as "socialist healthcare" to make sure that all Americans would keep getting forced into years or medical debt.

I guess none of that matters if plans continue with Project 2025. Who knows how a fascist dictatorship will play out of those plans move forward. (If you actually read the thing, the Republican backing of that thing was extremely broad.)

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

It matters very much, dear comrade. In the last few years we have seen an increase in state sponsored violence, from police killings to genocide, as well as an increase in vigilantism and individuals engaged in acts of violence and terrorism. Soon riots and acts of civil disorder will be more common. Unless the material conditions of working class people's lives improve, revolution is inevitable.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 6 months ago

It's that kind of minimizing that cost the Democrats the election.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

This statement leaves me almost breathless. "different solutions".

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Same in the healthcare industry. They use it to underpay American nurses and doctors.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

It's not left vs right it's up vs down