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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Ajit Pai were still in charge, he'd say "Woof woof! The telcos can do anything they want!," and the Verizon CEO who owns him would pat him on the head and give him a Milk-Bone.

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Until he personally lost service for a couple hours

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$$$ and because the ISPs don't get charged for unethical and blantly illegal activities...

The real question should be why is the internet not a public utility yet..? Huh FCC/CRTC...?

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. Democrats should run making it a utility.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh fuck off FCC, you know exactly why and intentionally don't address it.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is the FCC asking this question instead of already correcting the issue?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

In short, the Administrative Procedure Act. It sets out the procedures that have to be followed before policy decisions get made. If the FCC doesn't follow the APA's procedures exactly, that gives the industry grounds to sue. Even if the industry eventually looses, it would still mean a stay on the new policies during which they would continue to exploit consumers.

The APA isn't a bad thing, since it forces federal agencies to be deliberate in making policy decisions that could have far reaching consequences. That said, it does make the government even slower to react to situations that often change quickly. But it has tripped up this administration and previous administrations when they have tried to make hasty decisions, including Trump with his "Muslim ban".

[–] slicedcheesegremlin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Question, what the fuck was the "Muslim ban" I've never heard of this.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

It was never law, which is why it was so easily reversed.

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[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are asking ISPs to lay out their best justification so that they can decide whether it's valid or not. Judging by their wording, they want a good explanation. It's good to gain understanding of something before we gut it and who better to ask for the 'best argument for' than those who enforce it?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Because they have no intention of correcting it. They’re either doing this to keep up the charade of consumer protection, or gearing up to enshrine the practice in regulation.

[–] psycrow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Would be wonderful if the FCC did their fucking job for once and banned data caps. Companies like Mediacom abuse the fuck out of them

[–] yarr@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Because MONEY and lack of choice in some markets.... easy.

[–] dystop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Short answer? Because they can.

[–] ericthered926@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It’s the same reason my complex can force me to pay $100 for Xfinity while my neighbor pays $30 for the exact same service (because they’re in a house).

[–] astrsk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because fuck you, pay me, that’s why.

— Comcast, probably.

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[–] Tristar500@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is a rhetorical question right?

[–] Schwarz@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's ridiculous I have to pay Xfinity $110/mo for my speed and unlimited bandwidth

[–] BluePhoenix01@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Over here, I'm getting the Cox... last bill was $99 a month, now my "promo period" expired, and it is the full $170 a month thanks to "unlimited". It's pretty gross, but it is the only plan that gives the "amazing" 30 mbps up. :|

[–] 0jcis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s crazy! I’m paying 18 EUR a month for unlimited 1000 mbps download and 1000 mbps upload and I thought my bill was high. 😲

Oh. You were talking about mobile data. That’s still extremely expensive.

[–] 0xD@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

God damn. In Austria I'm paying 35€ for 250/250, and am still looking over to the Romanians with longing eyes. Data caps are only on mobile - which is still questionable in my eyes.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Data caps on mobile makes more sense to me, simply because mobile data is so much more expensive.

[–] fraenki@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it?

To me it seems it's cheaper to build an antenna to serve 100-1000s of users than to dig and install cables to all of them.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It depends on what you're trying to do. If you're just trying to reach them and don't care about bandwidth, wireless is the way to go. It's why more developed countries lagged behind developing countries on the transition to wireless phones. But when you're trying to deploy shear amounts of bandwidth, nothing beats fiber. It's incredibly fast, has low latency, and doesn't get interference.

And I suppose I should say that I think unlimited is a bad idea in general. I favor paying for what I use. People who use expensive infrastructure sparingly should pay less than people use it a lot.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Because of corporate greed and a ridiculous lack of meaningful regulation.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's going to stop the forms being filled out by industry-controlled bots this time? Last time the FCC took public comment, anti-net-neutrality comments were being made under the names of dead people and people who would later claim they never participated in making comments to the FCC.

Otherwise, it's going to be the same dumb shitshow as last time.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same dumb shitshow as last time is probably the goal.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It did a great job of discrediting opening anything for public comment thenceforth. Which I really think was the long-term goal.

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[–] ppb1701@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Atemu. Money. Same reason they don't really wanna disclose all the little fees.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The FCC still doesn’t have a leader. Biden nominated one but couldn’t get congress to approve one so they’ve sort of been stuck and unable to do anything.

The FCC is split evenly by Repubs and Dems, with the Commissioner being the tie breaker, nominated by the presiding president

[–] gmg@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lack of healthy competition. It's plain to see from the other side of the ocean where I live... Is it maybe one of those things you can only see from afar?

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Interesting…me too 🤔

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

GREED. That has always been the answer.

[–] faltuuser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because there is money to be made!

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