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I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 120 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

No, they haven't. 99% of people have never heard of the fediverse or any app within it.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

People here are so out of touch here; it's super interesting

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In a way, it's a good sign. The threadiverse is tight-knit and comprehensive enough to become people's primary social site. I've never seen any other reddit alternative get to this point.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Discuit still has less than 200 weekly commenters: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/HCHvcmBc

Lemmy has 42000 monthly active users

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

That explains why I recognize people all the time. We’re basically a small city

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[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It became my primary. Had never heard/understood federated-internet anything before lemmy. And it's been a really good time here

Reddit is now just a Quora for me, when I'm using a search engine. I don't scroll Instagram, but just look at what (3) people send me. Facebook is for rare use-cases, so I haven't deleted my account. YouTube I watch, rarely scroll, and don't interact. And I think that's about it currently

Lemmy has it's own issues/flavor for sure... but I dig it. I learned my first forum basics from Something Awful, and there's a certain vibe here that reminds me of that. The fediverse (threadiverse? I haven't heard that term) feels like an internet community center or something

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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I told everyone in my family, and it was one ear and out the other.

My sister told me the other day, "I didn't know I could add reddit it to my Google search and get better results." All I could think is, "you figured that out right when everything went to shit, damn."

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

My wife still uses reddit. She's well aware of the controversy, and why I left, and just doesn't care.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Yeah, a lot of people have quit Twitter over Musk being a huge douche and migrated to... Blusky. And they think they've done something really great. It's sad.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, Twitter is so bad now that Bsky is an improvement.

And Bsky has to appear trustful as they need to attract users.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's how they all begin.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course, but if the most urgent priority is to get people off Twitter, then Bsky is a better alternative at the moment.

Hopefully at some point Mastodon and Keyforks will catch up on discoverability

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It blows my mind that all these services announcing their leaving of X haven't spun up their own Mastodon instance.

social.transitchicago.com sounds just fine to me.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

Mastodon is not a twitter clone.

Bluesky is a twitter clone, without musk. That's all these people want. They've never heard about the fediverse. They're not protesting corporate centralism.

They just don't like twitter being a right wing agenda. They want a twitter experience circa before musk bought it, simply because it was left wing before.

That's bluesky. That's not mastodon.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bluesky is...fine. Currently, it operates the way that I wish Twitter did. It lets you curate your feed, it shows the feed in chronological order, and finally and most importantly it has a critical mass of users so there is actual content there, rather than every 5th post complaining about how everyone is on another platform or not using Linux.

Really, the only issue I have with it is that it is owned by a corporation. But like Twitter and Reddit, I am willing to abandon it for something else when it gets shittier.

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[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I guess most people don’t want to wade through dozens of “eat the rich” posts every time thay open their favorite social media platform.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, people get overwhelmed by choosing a server instance.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] kipo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird. That’s like my main kink.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or any political content at all. Most people just want to look at funny cats or memes.

Other people want absurd humor without the racist degeneracy of other outlets.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I quit FB and reddit because they became mostly "kill all who don't work minimum wage at mcdonalds", "all minorities r bad" and "ukranians are nazis but check out this 3d model which is the next russian wundewaffe that will kill your countries civillians"

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

If all the average users were here, it would be just as awful as Reddit became when it hit mainstream acceptance level.

Remember that subreddits there were quality when small but sort of became too large to have character after a certain threshold, I seem to recall 300k subscribers and up being about where that delineation was.

Lemmy could stand to be more popular, but not too popular or it would attract the bottom feeders that make stupid one liner comments and upvote wrong answers.

Enjoy the smaller lemmy while it lasts

Edited for clarity, gotta drop the reddit shorthand

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

In other words: Advertising works.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Lemmy doesn't have much to offer compared to the "billionaire run" social media.

[–] relic_@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is the real answer. I forget the exact numbers, but the vast majority of people on reddit are just lurkers. When you have an enormous user base, that still translates to lots of content to consume. Lemmy has way less content and very small communities (if any) for most niches.

Of course you can point to bots on reddit inflating those numbers and that Lemmy has more meaningful interaction, but that's not what most are looking for that are on reddit.

Also, as others mentioned, there's no negative engagement algorithm drivers on mastodon like there is on Twitter. Fact is, a lot of people just like to be angry and combative.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Good point, if I just wanted to lurk reddit would be fine for that purpose. But the users are so wretchedly toxic that commenting is a no-go.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Voyager, Thunder and Arctic blow the Reddit app out of the water

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is that the app doesn't mean much to people if it's not serving up the content they want.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

It's unfortunate, but there's a real chicken-and-egg problem here. Those of us who are on here are here because of how strongly we believe in the ideal of it, but for the average person who just cares about talking about their favourite interests, there's a serious lack.

I'll use two examples, one that you clearly care about, and one that I do. /r/stopkillinggames is hardly super active, but in the last 3 weeks it's had 11 posts with a cumulative 68 comments. !stopkillinggames@lemm.ee, by contrast, has had just 8 posts, all by a mod, with just 6 total comments. /r/AgeofMythology is very active with artistic appreciation posts, balance discussion, and advice just within the last 24 hours. !aom@lemm.ee has failed to attract a single post from anyone other than myself, and it's been over 3 months since anyone other than myself has left a comment. It's disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Lemmy's excellent if you want to talk about politics, or open source, but there's not a huge amount outside of that. The Star Trek communities are pretty good, but they pale in comparison to a great sub like /r/daystrominstitute, and the amount and depth of discussion on ttrpg.network is slim compared to /r/pathfinder2e, /r/dndgreentext, /r/dndnext, etc. And these are some of the best-supported hobbies on Lemmy.

So as much as I'm staying here and trying to do my part to make it better, and frequently encourage others to join...I also can't really blame people who don't.

(I feel less charitably towards people on Twitter. Because that place is a total shithole, and Mastodon is surprisingly good, if you like microblogging platforms. Plus even Bluesky is better than staying on Twitter, and it has most of the celebrities and micro-celebrities some people might want to follow.)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Have you tried more generic gaming communities? !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works is quite active, I'm sure a regular thread about AoM there would definitely get some traction (or even just a one-time promotion thread)

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You're talking about people that are content with "the internet" being google, facebook, instagram, snap, tiktok, youtube and twitter, nothing more.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, if I weren't politically as far left as I am, lemmy would have scared me off a long time ago.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

And you need to be a particular kind of weird person to sift all the random posts. The average user actually wants an algorithm.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (21 children)

As a non tech expert, in my view, the biggest concern for the fediverse to grow, presently, is how difficult it can be to sign up.

Go to a instance listing, try and choose one, signup... all of this should be acessible but mostly invisible for the average user. The user should only be questioned what sort of content they mostly intend to browse, have a NSFW explicit option, perhaps a server location preference, and that should be it.

Beneath the hood, this process should trigger a call to the network requesting a user slot for any server that could cater to that generic profile the prospect user filled. Even bans should be handled differently, in my opinion.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine to go over all that... To end up on .ml

You're 100% on point. From first attempt to getting my final account it took me a few weeks. Had an instance close down days after joining, another blocking communities I was interested, sign up denied...

In fucking reddit you don't even need a real email

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

The fediverse is like a cafe with an unusual menu and interesting conversations. Most social media is like a McDonald's in Altoona PA.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which one is Ice Cubes? First time I hear about it

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It is an IOS client for mastodon that uses a glassy design aesthetic.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish that lemmy had the population to sustain more niche communities.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

Feel free to come help us promote it on https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Fruit is not addictive. Cocaine is. There's the answer

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Another contributing factor is that Lemmy & Mastodon "care about privacy". Odd, in my opinion, for a public social network.

Their interpretation of that is that they don't send referer headers. So to any site receiving Lemmy traffic, we're invisible.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

billionaire ran

Billionaire-run

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That coke-rush is just temporary and afterwards, leaves you feeling like this:

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obligatory reference to SNL's parody take, though more for Oscar the Grouch: https://youtu.be/kqpak5lFxvs.

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