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[–] Wanderdust@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

I just joined pixelfed and I’ve been finding myself compelled to post. It just feels like such a small positive corner of the internet. I hope it can maintain that vibe as if grows

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

My first Loops video! And it's just a download from TikTok. 😕

[–] ThaMunsta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Cum into the watercooler....

[–] shilohcode@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

I'm so happy to see an Instagram alternative. We can continue helping people find a better way to post and engage without giving data to everyone and their mom

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (11 children)

The Fediverse needs UI work. The new world needs a new internet.

I'm thankful we have this glorified hobbyist project of a micro internet, because it's awesome. It's time for real layout work to make things more intuitive, instead of this "just solder it" open-source-in-the-bad-way energy that sometimes gets half-assedly splattered around.

For everybody who has and is working on the Fediverse, thank you.

[–] somtwo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The reason I dislike this comment is it characterizes the work of many different people as "don't care." I would bet money that there are people who work on fediverse projects who care very deeply about UX but have to settle because they have day jobs.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The UI's aren't that bad. They're replicating existing apps/styles and then bolting on features. In some clases like immich, they're replicating them so closely they're probably open for lawsuit :)

Loops is 75% TikToc. Lemmy is 60% Reddit.

If we had a couple of UI artists and Usability people join the projects and crank out designs, I wonder if the devs would implement them and spend the time making the output true to the design.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We have https://phanpy.social/ for mastodon, it's great

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"The UI is bad" is the stock attack on any open-source project. Doesn't matter how good the UI actually is, or how bad the corporate version is, "bad UI" is such a nebulous criticism that you can apply it to anything.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Which is amusing, because the UX for Facebook, X and TikTok are horrendous also. So much stuff buried under layers of settings

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And none of those settings will give you the experience you actually want.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There was a point in time in OG Facebook, maybe the early 2010s, when they let you have really granular control of the timeline. Like they allowed any post to be clicked and you could change the amount you saw from that person or page on a sliding scale, and it actually worked! They of course got rid of it

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, that's intentional though. The stuff that's buried is the stuff that doesn't make them money.

Bad ux in open source is because nobody has any money.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, people make good code that is open source, even though it doesn't make them any money. Same with wikipedia articles.

So why are we not seeing more contributions in the form of better UX/UI it the open source world? I don't see a logical reason why that has to be the case. The question is what can we do to change it, and also get UX-designers on board?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying it's a matter of desire. It's a matter of time. A full-time developer has to feed their family, so they have to put most of their time into the stuff that makes them money. That means that their passion project is just naturally going to get less time as a function of the number of hours left in the day and the amount of energy for coding that the developer in question has.

Further, ux design is a less "atomic" process; small amounts of time working on ux is going to have less impact than small amounts of time in coding. A programmer could conceivably fix a bug or make a minor improvement or feature request in ten minutes, and a Wikipedia editor could spend ten minutes improving the grammar and punctuation of an entire article; but the ux process requires mockups, iteration, asset creation, and coding for every change—and even if that can be done in ten minutes, the rest of the ui will look completely different, meaning that the overall ux will be worse than before, despite that one thing looking better.

What can we do to change it? Companies that rely on FOSS should contribute to projects so that the people who work on them can afford to do so at least part-time, or empower their own employees to contribute to FOSS on company time. Those are really the only two options, barring some sort of UBI or public grant for open source software.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for expanding on this topic, and I get what you're saying about proper UX and how it requires a holistic understanding.

It least that is what is required to climb from "ok, I guess" to "good". But is there something that could get us from "terrible" to "ok, I guess"? What's your take on better, clearer design guidelines for example?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Overall, in my experience, any improvement will require the same amount of time; whether from bad to acceptable or acceptable to good.

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[–] Blaze@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago

Lemmy is lucky to have alternative frontend like Photon, Tesseract and Alexandrite

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You what we need? A snapchat alternative. I actually like the idea of snapchat even though i hate the product. Just sending a random picture to your freinds every day is a cool thing imo. And it would be pretty easy to implement probably because you wouldnt need to federate posts just send it to the users you sent it to.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

Just sending a random picture to your freinds every day is a cool thing imo.

You can do that with Signal ?

[–] m_f@discuss.online 19 points 2 days ago

Signal has a lot of overlap there. They've got disappearing messages and Stories

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly, just building an RCS app with easy grouping, quick captions, streak tracking, and delete requests would be the way to go with this. Then you have an immediate network effect of every iPhone and Android user in the world, and you don't have to get your friends to switch if they don't want to.

Signal could provide that with a few more features

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

Excellent. They are seeing huge growth. I'm hoping it's sustainable, the main server is just getting slammed right now (according to the mastodon posts).

According to fedidb all they need is 70k ish more people and I get will surpass Lemmy in number of users.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Does Lemmy federate with pixelfed posts?

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 113 points 3 days ago

The Fediverse way.

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[–] hitagi@ani.social 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was surprised when my friend casually brought up Pixelfed (he called it "Pixelfeed") and Bluesky the other day.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For the average person who doesn't understand or care about federated systems, "pixelfeed" is probably a better name. It feeds you pixels.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

tbh I always thought of the original name as “being fed by pixels

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[–] d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kickstarter coming sometime soon to get some more resources going for it and related projects. will be interesting to see if it's effective.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pixelfed/pixelfed-foundation-2024-real-ethical-social-networks

Dan tends to work on too many things simultaneously (which isn't bad per say, and he thrives doing so) which means things get stalled and its a little hectic. Hoping more funds and community excitement will help spread the work out more and allow him to keep working as he does without other projects being on pause in the meantime.

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A few of those projects just need to mature and have teams working on them, I think. There's nothing wrong with him bouncing around to different projects but it sucks that no one's working on Pixelfed if he isn't. It'd be great if he could secure enough funding for an additional paid dev on each of his major projects.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Holy shit, no kidding. He has the most commits by a long shot. 9991 commits vs the #2 at 210 commits.

Maybe with this attention the app is getting, it can kick off like mastodon.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 days ago

Great! Seems like a small subset of people are coming to the fediverse again like durring the reddit blackout. Always love having more people to speak to.

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

I've heard discussion of Pixelfed on both TikTok and RedNote, which is exciting! Hopefully it's easy to use.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is Loops proprietary ? (I'm being serious here)

[–] AshMeshedUp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dansup is required to release the source code for Loops under the Nlnet grant's conditions I believe.

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[–] m_f@discuss.online 14 points 2 days ago

Source hasn't been released, but the dev has said it will be and there's no reason to doubt that IMO. Same dev as pixelfed which is open source and federated

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Mainstream media is an antiquated term. Been a while since they've been mainstream. Corporate media, or legacy media even, is more suitable nowadays.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Great stuff, I don’t do Instagram but I installed the app just to boast their numbers a little

I’m doing my part!

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 26 points 3 days ago

nice. I don't like that kind of social media, but that means the fediverse is getting attention and people may start migrating here instead of to progressively more privacy-violating platforms.

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

This is great! Pixelfed has been getting an influx of new users lately and it makes me happy that these sites are getting more traction!

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago

Good for Daniel. 💜

Here's to hoping for more and more attention!

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