I've never worked a single job in the US that didn't have sick and vacation hours. Granted it was like 5 seconds allowed every 7 years but still.
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i dont even have sick hours anymore its all pto. so if i get sick i just lose my vacation
Yeah that's a change that kinda sucks. If I'm sick just don't pay me for that day. Don't take it outta my vacation funds lol
my company used to do that but now that they went corporate if i call in sick and dont have vacation i get a point if i get too many points i get fired. i already have 3 because i got sick in december. absolute horseshit
I hope you're able to find better work somewhere else man. That's total BS.
Think bigger
Not exactly sure what you mean in this context. Should I think about taking bigger vacations?
I think they're saying that those conditions are still poor and you (as in everyone) should fight for more
Yeah that makes more sense.
Yeah the data all shows and has shown for a long time that people do better work and have better morale when companies treat them better. Unfortunately it costs the companies a little money so GET BACK TO WORK ~~SLAVE~~ EMPLOYEE I DONT CARE IF YOU GET EVERYONE AT WORK SICK.
I will never understand why bosses want me to come into work and potentially take out EVEN more of your staff with illness lol. Like yeah your short handed if I'm gone. You're gonna be even more short handed when all three of your customer service staff get sick Becky.
Neither of them are actually a legal requirement. What is offered is basically part of the "compensation package" (it's considered part of your pay) in the US. Also there are A LOT of jobs in the US that don't give paid sick time or vacation time, they are usually pretty far down the hierarchy though, and the jobs that do give paid time off typically don't give it to you until you have been employed there for at least a year.
I don't think this graphic is stating you cannot get any of these things in the US, but none of these things are guaranteed by the government.
And many jobs also pay you health insurance. But the point is that in other countries, social security is not attached to your employment. If you get fired, you receive unemployment and health care until you get your next job (details and quality of social system vary per country though).
Even if you have a job that pays for health insurance, it's still not as good as a universal health system with a single payer. There's deductibles to pay. In Canada, if I need to go to the ER, my biggest financial concern is paying for parking.
And even if you eliminate the deductibles, it's still not as good as a public health system because you also need to worry about whether a provider is in network and then your insurance company can just deny coverage because their whole point is to profit and not doing what their stated purpose is is an easy way to make more profit.
Yeah, those bottom two are flat-out wrong. Now, if it said something like "generous paid sick leave/vacation," it remains correct.
No they aren't.
I've worked many jobs, mostly retail and food service that has no option for any pto, sick or otherwise.
If you wanted time off outside of your scheduled hours, you could try to switch shifts with someone, or get someone to cover your shift, or, depending on the company, ask them for unpaid time, some would sometimes allow that, some wouldn't.
Right, but this chart it saying it doesn't exist at all. That's not true. "Universal" paid sick leave/vacation would be a better descriptor than "generous."
Wait usa doesn't have any of that? Lefties, let them have the country, it was never worth a damn anyway.
College is almost free in Québec, CA. You just pay administration fees, I believe around 200-300$ CAD for a semester.
We need to stop calling it “free” college. It’s not free. It’s a worthwhile investment we all pay for and reap the benefits of.
We don’t call it a “free military.”
College is free, uni isn't
Not our fault just one country uses the word incorrectly
You're missing the point. They're saying it's not free, it's funded by the government/tax dollars.
Also languages develop regionally and sometimes use different words. It's so 2010 to assert regional differences are "wrong." Gag me with a spoon.
I don’t understand why that matters ultimately? The point is “free” is not a good word for it, whether it’s college or university. It’s not “free” and we don’t call anything else we pay for with taxes “free.” All it does is create an easy attack vector for detractors and misrepresent it.
I think I understand your concern, but how do you very briefly describe what's happening a better way?
Schools in the US are "free", although they are generally funded by taxes. I think if you said to most people that society benefits from a good basic education for everyone, they would agree.
If you said that should apply to higher education, it doesn't sound like too much of a stretch.
If you then said "we should have the same standard of education and funding for the entire nation", many people would say "No way", because America, and that would mean centralized funding and standards and stuff. It's always that last part.
National education. Funded degrees. Paid-for education. Universal education. Lots of options.
We don’t call it free healthcare do we?
From the point of view of the Owners, the US is leading and the rest of the world has a lot of catching up to do.
Canada, at least ontario, doesn't have paid vacation for reg hourly workers. 4% comes of our cheque's into our own vacation fund. If you dont use it, you get it back at the end of the year. (6% if over 5 years as you get a 3rd week)
in defense of canada we are their closest competition so its natural for them to get a bit lazy.
where's Russia and China on the list?
I had a look at the list and they're not on the list,.like.wll the other countries that aren't on the list.
I hope that helps? Just reiterating, the list that you're looking at doesn't have all the countries in the world. It's a short list of countries.
I mean you could look at it and say oh wow that's six of the G7 countries, which are considered the countries which largely steer 'western" democracy and have done for the last 50 odd years, plus sweden, which is widely considered to be the most progressive western democracy, and try to work out why one of the countries on that list is so ass backwards in its social welfare.
But maybe it'd be easier to draw a comparison between that and Russia, which is a thinly veiled dictatorship and was booted out of the G8 10 years ago when it annexed Crimea, and China, which is literally ruled by the Chinese communist party. Those are two very valid and worthwhile comparisons to America, the world's leading liberal democracy.
It's not strictly true collage or university as it's know in the rest of the world, in the UK it's only Scotland that gets free tuition, not the rest of us, higher education which is 16-18 is free
Came to say this. Most people in the UK have to pay tuition for university. There is a govt loan but you're still paying it, plus interest
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Yeah but what's the price of eggs in those countries?
Checkmate, libs 😎
Ours are probably more, but our chickens aren't kept in quite such horrific conditions
Check back in a couple of months. Eggs might not even be in stores. Some old lady will take 3 eggs up to a cashier and ask the price. When she hears how much they are, she will sadly take 2 eggs back to the refrigerator case.
I believe only France is more expensive when adjusted.
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