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I was one of a group of Just Stop Oil activists given the longest-ever UK sentences for peaceful motorway. Six months into my incarceration, this is what I have learned

Not directly related to climate change, but Just Stop Oil has been in the news a lot.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it "funny" how I read the title and instantly knew it was the UK?

[–] mormund@feddit.org 4 points 21 hours ago

Same thing happens in Germany. Though I think the sentences are shorter

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 132 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like the lesson is "Don't bother doing non-violent protest. You'll go to jail anyway. Shoot a CEO, become a hero."

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems we're heading that way and it's not regular people's fault

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are you sure you couldn't have voted harder or something?

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I mean I printed the mail in ballot like 6x and mailed them, but unfortunately I stopped at 6 votes.

So yes, I could've voted harder and am sad I didn't.

(Just kidding, for you dainbramaged conservatives out there)

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the following days, we are sickened by the racially motivated hate riots whipped up by social media posts and exacerbated by irresponsible political rhetoric. Later, those arrested for violent assault and arson will be sentenced to an average of two years. The contrast between their sentences and my own feels grim and stark. Fellow prisoners tell me they are shocked by the discrepancy.

disgusting

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mild inconvenience apparentl is worse than fucking arson.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 hours ago

Well, I guess the lesson to learn here is to commit arson instead...

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Standard Grauniad proof reading...

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile the yatchs of oil billionaires sit in the waters you can dive in. With trivial dive training and basic equipment (an underwater propulsion Device, and an underwater drill with a lock hole cutting bit attached), you could probably send some of them under.

There's a whole bunch of relatively harmless but quite symbolic targets out there if you're creative and inconspicuous enough.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

You're not sinking a large yacht with a drill, they have watertight compartments and massive bilge pumps.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you'd need more than a hole saw to sink a megayacht*. The hole would need to be big enough to overwhelm the bilge pumps.

*


Side note: the definition of "yacht" includes basically any boat with a cabin for sleeping and cooking, and can be 10m or even smaller. A lot of people with "yachts" are far from millionaires, let alone billionaires, and in fact many of them are basically hobos living aboard as their only residence and doing the nautical equivalent of #vanlife (which IMO is a very "solarpunk" lifestyle, BTW). Whenever we're talking in the context of sabotaging the billionaires, we really should be talking specifically about superyachts or megayachts. (This is also why we shouldn't actually be rooting for the orcas, as they are almost exclusively attacking small yachts, which aren't the correct target.)

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd assume it depends on how many holes per battery charge and how many batteries you can carry.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it would also depend on the speed one could drill holes with an underwater drill, as opposed to cutting them with some other tool (like an underwater sawzall, if such a thing exists), or making them with another method entirely. After all, it's not just an issue of battery life, it's an issue of finishing quickly so as not to get caught or give the crew time to stop/repair the damage.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe a battery powered hammer and a 6" nail? Probably a lot faster, though more holes would be needed.

Need more info to make this math happen....

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No no no. Most of these yachts are aluminum hull. What you need is a scraper for the paint and a syringe full of gallium. Actually you could probably just scratch up a hull with a soap block of gallium and it'd do the trick. Gallium eats aluminum like cancer.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you sure about that? Because almost every displacement hull vessel is steel.

Also, just do it properly and build a bomb. That's a proven solution.

Username checks out

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A bomb with a timer seems much safer. Diving near a mega yacht that’s taking on water seems dangerous. The pressure differential could make it difficult to swim away and if it actually starts to sink while you’re nearby, you could get pulled under. (I’m not a diving expert but this is definitely something that would require actual expertise)

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh, imagine getting sucked into the hole.

If there's a big enough pressure difference, a human will be sucked through even a very small hole. Even just being stuck there until your air ran out wouldn't be fun.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Hmm, I forgot about this.

You'd be doing them a favor because they would just get an insurance payout.

[–] kapulsa@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The way these protesters is a disgrace for our democracies. Why are there no riots? Why are we so numb towards these injustices?

[–] juli@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are there no riots? Why are we so numb towards these injustices?

Because most of the outrage is downplayed as whackjobs and is downranked by social media companies so exposure is always low.

Why do you think the government either controls the social media networks or have internet bot farms (50 Cent Army, Hasbara, Indian IT cell, )?

US Air force was the most active city in reddit in 2013. I'm sure they were doing nothing nefarious at all, but reddit had to scrap the city reveal after that. hmm…

They shape the narrative they like, anything else is shoved into the dark corner.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think the government either controls the social media networks

I think you'll find, in 2025, it's social media that controls the government.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

¿Porque no los dos? It’s an ouroboros of propaganda and corruption.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because we don't have the kind organizing that sparks riots. We have a bunch of nonviolent civil disobedience instead.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago

Oh we do. You just have to say a brown asylum seeker murdered the girls in Southport and you get weeks of it.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't Just Stop Oil that one movement mainly funded by an oil company?

I don't have any facts, so I'm very prepared to be wrong about that

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If I recall recall correctly the daughter of some oil barron has developed a conscious and is spending daddies money on sensible causes, like envirmental Organisations, Just Stop Oil beeing among them.

It got spun into "funded by the oil Industrie" to discredit them, but that has no base in reality.

Edit:

Jup.

Funding

Just Stop Oil reports that all their funding is through donations,[12] with the group accepting both traditional currency and cryptocurrencies.[14] In April 2022, it was reported that Just Stop Oil's primary source of funding was donations from the US-based Climate Emergency Fund.[15] Through that fund, a notable donor to the group has been Aileen Getty, a descendant of the Getty family which founded the Getty Oil company.[16] In response, the Climate Emergency Fund stated that Getty did not work in the fossil fuel industry herself.[8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Thanks for fact checking me, good stuff