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In a recent communication, Amazon has alerted Kindle users about significant changes set to take effect from next month. The notification pertains to the phasing out of support for sending MOBI (.mobi, .azw, .prc) files through the “Send to Kindle” feature, starting November 1, 2023. This change, as News18 pointed out, specifically impacts users attempting to send MOBI files via email and Kindle apps on iOS, Android, Windows, and Mac.

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[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 131 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They're just removing an antiquated file type that you should have moved on from anyway. All my books are in epub format and even if they weren't calibre converts them so I don't think this is a significant change at all.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago

Yup. I see no problem with this change. EPub is an open format and one can easily convert existing ebooks.

[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some of us still use devices that only support .mobi

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This news wouldn’t really affect you, though, would it?

Send to Kindle feature is only for Amazon Kindle, and Kindle apps, and those have been able to support more than .mobi since the Kindle 2 (non-touch with a keyboard) which was discontinued nearly 15 years ago.

[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a Kindle. It does not support EPUB. This does affect me. I used to use a bookmarklet to send articles to my Kindle, and this would make that unfeasible.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Kindles don’t natively “support” Epub, but you can Send to Kindle or even email things to your Kindle and it will get formatted into a format that Amazon will accept. I’ve done this myself for years on Kindles and for devices with Kindle apps.

For your bookmarklet, you’d have to either update it to send as Epub or find another option that sends as Epub instead of Mobi.

In your situation, it sounds like just emailing articles to your Kindle would be the best option. This article can tell you how to figure out your Kindle email and how to send files to it.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So just set Calibre to convert the books to mobi before sending it to them

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[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

I remember having to change things I got from... places... from epub to mobi using calibre for my old school kindle to recognise it years ago. I don't even have that device anymore.

Glad they're accepting what appears to be the standard format tbh.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if you bought an ebook in mobi format a long time ago?

It doesn't make sense.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you’re technically competent enough to have a mobi locally and send it to a kindle, then you’re technically competent enough to convert it, so it’s not a huge deal. I agree it’s weird though.

Honest question: what non-piracy reasons are there for having a mobi file locally and not already having it attached to your Amazon account ready to download straight to your kindle? Did anyone but Amazon ever even sell mobi files?

[–] nick@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hello checking in here.

Last night I finally got calibre and dedrm working. I have around 400 ebooks that I’ve bought from Amazon over the years,but my trust in Amazon has been eroded to the point I want local, drm-stripped copies in case they take the books back; it has happened, but not to me yet.

The first book I converted: 1984.

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[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"what non piracy reasons are there"

"If you have nothing to hide then what's the problem with putting a camera in the bathroom. What non crime reasons could there be?"

Really though, if you're technically proficient enough for torrenting and vpns, you're proficient enough to convert to newer formats, too.

So even then, it's really just not that big a deal. Other than being a once-used format for the platform. And honestly how many devices are still functioning that can only use mobi? Heck I have a 10 year old Kindle somewhere that probably has 4 or 5 different formats from about 10 different sources.

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[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, does Kindle handle epub now?

[–] ipha@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

No, but you can send one through the email service and it will be automatically converted.

[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I only ever send in epub format. In the article it clarifies that Amazon recommends the sending of epub.

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[–] Deebster@programming.dev 123 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is an enormously overblown headline for such a small change.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I erroneously thought mobi was more important than it apparently is. I haven't had an e-reader in a long time and I remember using mobi files back then.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only for very old Kindles, really - Amazon have a new version they use (azw3) and everyone else uses epub.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My last e-reader was a very old Kindle.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

"Amazon notifies users that Kindle will no longer support Mobi ebook format"

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[–] kadu@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Calibre + KFX plugin. That's it.

KFX supports hyphenation and many more advanced features - the plugin exploits the official Amazon app for publishers to convert any open format into KFX, giving you all the features of Amazon store bought books for free.

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

Calibre has been a life saver for me. Love that program!

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[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lacking support for the latest Kindle features

What kind of support are they "lacking"? They do contain the text and basic formatting. What else would they need in a book?

I'd guess that those "lacking" features have something to do with user tracking or DRM.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Epub doesn't natively have user tracking and DRM either. Mobi files are just ancient and there are better alternatives for them. Like bmp files vs jpg.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Epub is actually pretty good. And it's been supported for a long time now. Hard agree.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The devices themselves still can’t process epub though so they still need conversion to … mobi.

[–] KaJedBear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They can use epubs for several months now. It's been incredibly nice but to have to convert books anymore.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Older devices too? I still have a Kindle Voyage.

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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Once you go Kobo you never go back.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Gotta say, cannot complain about my kindle either. Thanks to calibre, I’m not bound to Amazon and can read whatever I want.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'll check them out. Thanks

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

If anyone knows of a good ebook reader that's as easy on the eyes as a Kindle I'd love to know it. Everything I look at looks like a low spec tablet instead of a proper eink display.

Edit: thanks to a few comments in this thread I went with the Kobo Libra 2. I love this little device. Plenty of storage, a great display that's really easy on the eyes even with the backlight (which is fully dimmable and has color temperature adjustment). Thanks for everyone for the recommendations!

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 8 points 1 year ago

I use an old Kobo model and its great.

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[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

They've been notifying users for a while now, when sending mobi files.

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Samsung Mini Tablet + ReadEra = No more Amazon nonsense.

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