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It appears the US congress has just proposed (edited) a bill that declares "Antifa" a terrorist organization.
This doesn't even make sense as Antifa isn't an organization, but just a shared name for anyone that self-identifies as a person opposed to and willing to fight fascism 🤦♂️
Stay safe out there!
Note: SLRPNK is an EU based service and we are openly Antifa here, and proudly so!
The purpose of targeting an organization that doesn't exist is that anyone who opposes the state can be labeled antifa, and therefore a terrorist.
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This right here. Tyrants make up laws that are nebulous enough that you can charge whoever you want with them.
Guess I really need to pay attention if we have a "Tread of Fascists" flag hanging up then. Somehow it's potentially legally worse than a Confederate flag in the US? My poor, Union ancestors and very heavy U.S./Pennsylvanisch Deitsche ancestry.
Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.
Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.
This is why you don't let the nazis organize freely. They will always do what you should have done to them. Even when they had Trump on actual crimes they made sure that he would get the best possible chance to get away with it.
sooo theyre announcing they are officially pro fascism. got it.
"Antifa are the real fascists. We need to end the menace of foreign sponsored radical leftists. The tankies would be worse" is a thing conservatives routinely say to get liberals to follow along with henious state violence
Except calling people "tankies". I had never even heard the word before joining Lemmy.
I've never met a conservative in real life that would know what the fuck a "tankie" is.
Lookin' good America.
We should elect more people that do things like this instead of passing legislation to help struggling Americans.
But, oh no, we already told the party with a voting history proving they do that on a regular basis to go fuck themselves and elected people who want to label ANTI-FASCISTS terrorists instead while releasing 1,500 actual terrorists who performed an actual terrorist act back into our society without serving their time.
Clown country.
Clown country
The clown:
antifa is not an organization. It's more of an identification, and a label that is placed by state media. BLM is an organization that might show up to same event. Anyone protesting Musk/nazi adjacent rules, would be called antifa.
This is a law against protests, where the more fascist the rulers are, the less you are allowed to protest.
So in America anti-fascists are terrorists and murderous insurrectionists are heroes. Their forefathers must just be spinning in their graves.
Either the voters wanted it, or the sit outs didn't think it was that big a deal. That's how they won, basically. Of course they will blame the politicians and the system for giving them bad candidates. I mean, the alternative is to take responsibility for their cluster fuck.
There was also a shit ton of voter suppression and gerrymandering that made taking both houses of congress way easier. It was a lot of things combined.
The oligarchs are declaring war on the American population.
How far will they go until We the People get fed up? $10 eggs might be cutting it close.
Where tf do eggs cost so much? Am I really so far out in the country/removed from the shopping that I thought $4 a dozen sounded high? $5 is like, free range lady down the street price but she's gotta get hers so I don't begrudge her price.
My grandfather was antifa and so am I. The 1911 is a solid choice for nazis.
M1 Garand works pretty well too. Just be mindful where you put your thumb.
There are many better choices for automatic pistol today than the 1911.
The vagueness is the point. Vague laws transfer the power to those who enforce it (ACAB) who get to decide if that law applies in that case.
It's the same strategy used by the Spanish inquisition. Who's a witch? Keep it vague, and that answer becomes fully arbitrary and dependent on different social factors (such as people trying eliminate others and take their land by using such accusations). It also encourages everyone else to "signal" that they're not whatever the bad label is... as a precaution. Preemptive antiantifa. This is basic conservative society shit.
We saw the same thing since 2020 with the right-wing turning mask wearing into a signal for "weakness & femininity" and "leftism", and large numbers of conservatives decided that it was better to get COVID-19 and long COVID. Note that this wasn't STATE controlled, but it wasn't organic either, it was more of a private astroturfing phenomenon.
I'm not sure what the solution is, and I doubt that it's just one single thing, but I'd love to see some ideas.
Important detail: It isn't a bill that's been passed. It's only been introduced and referred to the judiciary committee. It'll be bigger news if it gets out of the committee, goes to the floor, and gets passed.
Go for it. There's no such thing as antifa outside the minds of chuds. There's no organization. No roster of "members"
It's just people who are anti-fascist as a principle. And every living WWII vet.
That won't stop them from branding any opposition as a member of antifa to justify terrorism charges. This is alarming because it is a step in systematically suppressing opposition.
Ding ding ding. Winner winner. The fascism playbook requires persecution of an "outside" group. Antifa is a backup if immigrants doesn't work. Or if they don't like someone who isn't an immigrant.
My money on the first person prosecuted under Antifa-as-a-Terrorist-Org rule: AOC
Any guesses?
Reeks of McCarthyism
Neonazis, ok. Fighting against neonazis, not ok. Got it.
Remember to get your official Antifa membership cards at https://antifa.org/
They want it again? Oh well, predictable as a clockwork.
An article from 2020, when Trump & co wanted it last time:
What Is Antifa, the Movement Trump Wants to Declare a Terror Group?
What they failed to learn last time:
Rather, antifa is more of a loose movement of activists whose followers share some philosophies and tactics.
As others have mentioned, they didn’t fail to learn it. Broadness and vagueness is the point. It’s a weapon, and broadness makes it a sharper tool to suppress anyone and everyone. Membership isnt a thing. So worst case scenario, they can easily say, “they called trump a fascist, and antifa literature has stated they aim to fight what they call fascism. Therefore they’re enemies of the state.”
At what point is crying fascism going to actually scare people? Because shit like this is definitely scary. They want a reason to arrest you? They look back at your social media and say in 2020 you posted pro-BLM remarks, supported the protests and defended property destruction: antifa.
Fucked up. Doubly so because “terrorism” charges are much, much more punitive. Basically, as soon as you’re charged with anything related to terrorism, you’re absolutely fucked with zero rights. Especially under a government that has no oversight and is out on an ideological rampage.
Antifa is like communism. Hitler is a communist and thus is evil until he is a smart man whose symbols we should revere and have streets named after him, then he is a nationalist who was assaulted by Poland and had to defend himself and whom the French and British suddenly and unjustly declared war on and claimed that Germans must be exterminated.
'We cannot rest until the sound of the German language is still heard around the platter we call earth.' Neville Chamberlin.
You probably realized that most of the stuff I wrote is deliberate bullshit. But there have been so many real examples of stuff written like that (fake quotes, strings of events that were either invented or skewed so badly they cease to resemble reality) that this is what a 'debate' with a fascist looks like. We've seen it with the whole Haitians are eating cats and dogs. That shit came out of nowhere and despite Kamala rightly laughing at it, people ate it all up and believed it.
Then they will accuse their opponents of being stupid and believing it... until they start to say it is real again when it is convenient. Pathological lying is a feature, not a bug.
So antifa has a leader and a headquarters now? Is there a secret handshake? Dang. Nobody tells me anything.
those poor fascists 😢
istg these new policies sound like they were made by a 11 year old conservative - except they're from an 80 year old fascist.
I remember the day that I applied to be a member of the ANTIFA organization. It was a gorgeous day, the sun warmed my back as I walked into their headquarters, documents in hand.
I met with the president, board members and committee. They gave me a uniform, took my picture, and printed an ID.
Then, I was invited into the private group chat, which everyone in ANTIFA is in.
But, times have changed.
Since then, they sold my data, and now I get fucking Dominos Pizza coupons all day. How am I meant to fight fascism with fucking pizza.
It’s marjorie taylor greene bullshit. Hopefully the rest of congress is smarter than this.
Maybe we just call ourselves "antfash" and if they ask we are just really into dressing up ants?
I'm embarrassed to ask this but what is antifa? Anti-fascist? People who don't want another Hitler? If so, why is it so controversial and why do they think antifa stormed the capital because that's the last thing an antifa group would do.
antifa is an organized anti-fascist group dreamed up by trump. they don't exist, and never have. if you look at the things the bill cites as actions by antifa it includes blm, drag queen story hour, random forum posts, the capitol storming, and literally everything in between.
so, what they're doing is making everyone who goes against the government in any way a domestic terrorist, and simultaneously making "anti-fascist" a bad thing.
Since this is an EU community it should be mentioned that this cannot become law in the US without passing the Senate. Which is usually a much higher bar. The US House of Representatives is known for suggesting outrageous stuff that never even gets heard in the Senate.
Good! I'm not a Nazi but I think ANYONE that is Anti Nazi is a TERRORIST! And anyone who does a One Armed Salute is a HERO!
