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We are under attack by a global RW fascist insurgency.
More like the masks are off now. People are still racist but they didn't show it because of the social media implications. I saw a guy on LinkedIn who did an experiment because his name is middle eastern sounding he didn't get any response to his job applications. He decided to change his name on his resume to Jack and the response rate skyrocketed.
100% Fully radicalized now and dangerous.
As we've seen repeatedly in the past decade, the Swiss has a major issue with racism on all fronts. It's been pretty extreme.
This time SVP didn't even hide or deny their connections to known neo nazi groups. They openly posted so on IG. One parliament member even got one of these groups organize her campaign.
But to provide context: Many countries in Europe are shifting to the right at the moment. Not a huge surprise unfortunately.
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As with any issue balance is the key. Being anti immigration is wrong, but also letting in anyone without strong stipulations is wrong as well.
As a lefty, the problem with the left, and the reason they are losing this issue, is because they want to be so PC that they won't even allow discussion on the issue for fear of not looking ultra progressive to their friends.
If you want to immigrate into a country, you must 100% be aligned with the values of your new country. You can't come in and demand that people respect your religious views if they are anti women or anti homosexuals or anti trans.
To many of my progressive brothers and sisters seem to be ok tolerating intolerance. If your religion demands that your wife walks behind you pushing the stroller with a burka on in 40 degree weather, while you get to walk around in shorts and flip-flops we're going to have a problem.
If you want to immigrate into a country, you must 100% be aligned with the values of your new country.
It's just hard to say that when a lot of European Colonialism took place in these countries, some gaining independence within the last 100 years (referring to the middle east as alluded to in your last paragraph)
I don't really know where to stand and I don't think you can be in a position that is correct given the effects of colonialism from Europe. The fact that some effects of this colonialism (especially in Africa) have destroyed some countries/cultures, when the natural population didn't "100%" align with the colonizers makes it hard to not sympathise with these people. A lot of these immigrants are leaving their home countries (not all), due to the rippling effects of colonialism.
I should say while I agree with your statement, I don't know how to account for the effects of external influence that may be causing said immigration.
Sounds like a pretty well constructed straw man woven in with some genuinely disturbing nativist stances (e.g., 100% value alignment as a precondition). And all in response to an article where nothing is mentioned about any positions on immigration from any of the other parties, most of which (including the socialists) just maintained their size. But yes, I'm sure "as a lefty" you think "balance is key" on every issue and somehow manage to use the rise of the right to talk about how it's really progressives' fault.
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You can take in refugees and immigrants, and expect them to adhere to the law. It's not hard.
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Not surprising, given they were the only ones serious about advertising. We got so many leaflets from them at work and home and I even saw them on Reddit, yet nothing at all on those distribution channels from any other parties. I've seen some billboards by others, but it feels like 80% of the ones I've seen were SVP.
I personally hate them and didn't vote for them, but I don't think it's surprising they have such a big following.
That's an interesting case to analyze, following the money for those campaigns might be dangerous. Just a few days ago the US sent notes to several countries regarding external influences on elections.
Additionally, many european countries are literally getting old. The birth rate has been dropping for a while.
31% of the population of Switzerland are non-Swiss residents without voting rights.
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Where the money is...
I think it's pretty sad that this is influencing people's decision who to vote for - I understand it a bit if you vote the politicians directly since those change every couple of years but voting a party that's been part of the political system forever because they advertised more than the other parties? That seems very sad
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Does Switzerland even have meaningful immigration to be concerned with banning it?
Isn't this the country where communities vote on their neighbors' citizenship applications?
20% of the population is immigrants. But the vast majority aren't Muslim, so this party seems like it would be targeting Christians more than Muslims in actuality. Though I doubt they admit that to anyone.
In the cities it can even reach 40%. They are mostly Germans and from other European countries. The numbers are high because citizenship is difficult to get. SVP however is strong in the countryside, not in cities. Most concerns are about refugees from the middle east and Africa.
SVP are clearly racist, anti-Muslim based on past referendums and rhetoric. The european court for human rights is denounced by them as "foreign judges" who are blocking the will of the Swiss people. But no, they don't admit to being racist.
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1/3 of swiss popularion are not from here. But yeah, it's silly, with the whole 4-cultures thing in swiss.
Most of which are German or Italian, then, somewhat curiously, Portugal before France. Austria+Germany together are the largest group by language spoken. (And yes Austro-Bavarian does qualify as German (when compared to Swiss German)).
The Portuguese are the low-cost, seasonal (construction) workers in West-Switzerland. That's how they are before the French.
My first thought as well. I've always heard it was pretty difficult to move to Switzerland.
There's plenty of immigration or our economy would get crushed by our ageing population.
And there may still be some villages where they still vote on this, but most places have it regulated. The rules are inconvenient however so our immigration number is high (20-25%) even if they've lived here for years.
~1/3 of swiss population are not from here. But yeah, it's silly, with the whole 4-cultures thing in swiss.
I think we need to bring back the global "it's ok to punch Nazis" rule
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So the SVP gets 29%. The Social Democrats have 17%, the Free Democrats have 15% and the Center Alliance has 15%. The SVP 29% would still not be enough if any two the others form a coalition against them.
Enough for what? Switzerland doesn't really have coalitions, that's more Germany. At most there's "coalitions" on single issue votes. And there's 7 presidents, proportional to parties, so no such thing as a ruling party or coalition. That said, the FDP votes identical with the SVP in nearly everything already, especially economic issues, so much so that'd it'd be hard to distinguish them based on votes, minus the blatant populism.
Jupp, another 4 years of a right wing government. Another 4 years of sabotaging actual solutions to actual problems to enrich the rich further and to blame the foreigners for it.
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