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[–] patacon_pisao@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

the amount of hate crimes we see in the US will drastically rise, especially among people who don’t “look” or “sound” American, especially indigenous people. ignorance is now intelligence.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Not a bug, but a feature of the Republiqon agenda.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thats some bullshit. We should all start speaking spanish then.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I'm looking into convo Spanish at the local C. C.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Hmm not to discredit this, but how does that work, being detained and having to produce a birth certificate ... does one normally daily carry a birth certificate next to ones ID?

And if you're detained without a a birth certificate while on vacation across the country?

Only ID on you? Go to prison?

No ID nor birth certificate and you'll either get shot or deported?

What if you speak something else than Spanish or English amongst yourselves?

How long 'till the Trump administration mandates a form of ID on ones hand, arm, or forehead?

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol. The religious nutjobs will really love it when he gives us a choice of the taking the mark (of the beast) or face deportation.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It would be awesome though if we were able to deport all the religious nut jobs. Though not for the places these crazies would be deported to.

Put them on an Ark - wooden, overloaded, cast adrift in the type of weather that would cause massive flooding, if you catch my drift. Of course, gathering two of each animal would be cruel, so we'll skip those.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Someone can bring it, fax it, send a picture, carry a picture? Carrying it seems like a huge risk of accidental loss.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do you think every US born citizen is going to suddenly carry around a photocopy of their birth certificate everytime they leave their house?

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

No, that's why I didn't list it. I'm suggesting I don't doubt the veracity of the article because it's just impossible to have access to a birth certificate. That is a simplification of the opinion of the guy I replied to.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

If you don't carry your federal ID with you at all times, there is no way to determine your US citizenship. Also, there is no federal ID. And many states issue drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants to avoid issues with unlicensed and uninsured motorists.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

immigrants are meant to carry their green card on them at all times. i keep mine with my driving license.

i also keep an album of photographs of my ID on my phone

[–] teawrecks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

sure but these were us citizens. i am a citizen. i woild never carry my birth certificate around. what if i lose my wallet? identity theft??

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I understand, I was saying that's why they were asked for papers, suspected of being illegal immigrants, not saying they should've had to follow this bullshit

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Time to learn Spanish.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago
[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 143 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fuck maga and the racist bigots dominating American policy.
Thank you American voters.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Dont forget to also thank the DNC for their electoral strategerie. Turns out campaigning to a left leaning voter base by going hard right with Liz cheney onstage and Harris talking lovingly about her Glock wouldnt win it for the dems?

No one could have forseen such a thing not working on the 20th time its been tried. The only way to be sure is to try it a few more times. Lets get on it people --who knows some republicans that the dems can campaign with twice as hard in 2028? Are the AIPAC donations still flowing? How can we get even larger corporate sponsors? Can we get Harris some ammo bandoleers and a .50 cal for next time? The glock didnt work.

Who is even in charge these days at the DNC?!?

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Don't forget the insane "Genocide Joe" crowd actively campaigning against Harris because Biden and Trump "were the same".

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As of 2023, there were over 42 million Spanish speakers in America.

I used to live in South Gate, a neighborhood in L.A. We were the only family in the neighborhood that didn't speak Spanish. Even the local pizza places didn't understand us well enough to order from. We didn't complain, we were the white people who chose to move there and we were fine with it. But we're talking about a neighborhood full of homeowners, not undocumented immigrants. Some of them were in the U.S. for generations.

And then there's Florida:

First settled by the Spanish in the 16th century, 19% of Floridians now speak Spanish, which is the most widely taught second language. In Miami, 67% of residents spoke Spanish as their first language in 2000.

In addition, there are several other major cities in Florida with a sizable percentage of the population able to speak Spanish, most notably Tampa (18%) and Orlando (16.6%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States#Florida

The U.S. has no official language. Spanish is one of many spoken in the U.S. A large proportion of the U.S. used to be Mexico. Of course we have a ton of people here who speak Spanish.

But, you know, "they all look and sound alike."

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The U.S. has no official language

I'm sure that bill is just around the corner

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Almost certainly. They've been wanting it for years now.

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[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 93 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guilty until proven innocent, unfortunately.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Literally. Having to show your fucking birth certificate to prove you are a citizen?

I suppose next they will demand the "long form" birth certificate like they did with Obama. And then they will show it and it won't matter anyway.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm getting a passport card ASAP. I don't look Mexican or south American, but I have a Latin surname- And on more than one occasion Latinos have referred to me and to my wife (who also has a Latin surname) as "one of us"- which frankly pleased me. So I'm not taking any chances of some ICE pig deciding to make his quota at our expense.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't say don't do it, because you never know, but all it takes is for an asshole cop to "lose" your ID and you're still fucked. That is one of my big worries and how I think a lot of citizens will end up "detained," if not just deported.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago
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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We've been getting news reports like this and ones about Native Americans, and they are egregious, but it's worth noting we're not getting enough stories about the undocumented people and how badly they're being treated. They're people too. What's being done to them is legal under this administration, but it's evil.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If you're an American citizen in a red state, that looks visibly Mexican/South American and speaks fluent Spanish, you should lean into this! Go put on a serape, a sombrero, some chanclas and sell tamales or tortillas in front of the local mall right now while singing "Feliz navidad" - just be the full, lead-huffing boomer racist fantasy caricature. Get arrested and then get yourself a FAT settlement for civil rights violations... while we still have courts and judges who don't have spray tan stains on their white collared robes.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

while we still have courts and judges who don’t have spray tan stains on their white collared robes.

About that. They're expanding Gitmo.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a terrible idea.

Cops are completely immune and there is little to no chance the courts would uphold any civil rights violations under Dictator Trump

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Sure, the cop is shielded, and will not pay a penny. The taxpayers on the other hand....

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[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

"Fat settlement" is spelled a little differently in reality:

Mark Lyttle, an American citizen with mental disabilities who was wrongfully detained and deported to Mexico and forced to live on the streets and in prisons for months, settled his case for $175,000 against the federal government.

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/us-citizen-wrongfully-deported-mexico-settles-his-case-against-federal-government

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That's more than my yearly salary though so... 🤷🏽‍♀️ No, but that's absolutely horrendous what he went through.

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[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Honest question and genuinely not suggesting anything, but, Isn't this what the second amendment is for?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a difference between second amendment culture and your second amendment rights.

2A culture is pretty much MAGA: "Respect my authority or I won't respect your right to exist." As a former conservative who owns guns, this line of thinking is very pervasive through gun owning circles. But you need to remember that they will fully support laws that bar the other people from owning guns like the Black Panthers.

Bare in mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It only has power when the government and the will of the people give it power. You can assume for at least the next four years, the Constitution will be seen as "rules that allow me to stay in power but don't protect you from me".

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago

the 2A lunatics are the ones who want the tyranny

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How would this family getting in a shootout with the cops have helped them?

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[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is possibly not a real thing that happened.

Of all the news agencies I looked into that tried to verify this story, they all came up empty handed. Even snipes did a dive in on it and found nothing

So yeah look at all the comments posted here jumping to conclusions.

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