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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] kanata@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 minutes ago

Hes a great friend of Israel. If any thing, hes anti-woke, the salute is more of an anti-woke salute than its a nazi-salute. The group most upset about it are the left and friends.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Why is this thread full of Nazi propaganda? Yikes. 😬

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

If Elon isn't a full-blown Nazi, he's at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, his alliances life with power, money, and people thinking he's cool (narcissism). The racism and cruelty are just his personal side projects.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Just like his grifts.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'd imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Before? What, in primary school?

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 12 hours ago

All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

What did he do to out himself, out of curiosity?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

He punched a guy in 2015 over available food options, which got him fired from BBC. His popularity didn't take that much of a hit from this incident despite him clearly being in the wrong (Hammond and May both left BBC with him and they started a new show The Grand Tour, which wasn't as popular as Top Gear, but was still popular.

Then, in 2022, he wrote an opinion piece for the Sun about how much he hates Megan Merkle and included a bit where he said she should be paraded naked through the town. Amazon decided to not start any new projects with him after this, though they continued with the plans to wind down The Grand Tour which had already been established.

He's got a farming show now, so he wasn't cancelled over this, despite burning some bridges.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody really remembers, it was so long ago.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Then all's well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let's get some froghurt...

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he's still there ?

Just looked…the accounts still there. No apparent activity in a year.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It's the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

[–] Paradachshund 7 points 23 hours ago

I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children's toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I've seen). Some of these behemoths can't even fit in a single parking spot, it's kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don't know cars so I can't say any specific models I'm afraid)

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It can't realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can't travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

[–] not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wasn't the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

Even up to present day conflict tanks breaking down or getting stuck can be a major loss of armor, especially during prolonged maneuvers.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

That's every one of those big German tanks everybody talks about. The ones they started the war with were pretty fine (limited by terrain, though).

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol survival rate vs death rate.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago

OK so survival rating of 75% vs. 20%. Happy?

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[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I think RAMs or similar win in that category by being as actively harmful as possible. And having the huge blindspot where you run over kids without noticing.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

based we did it fascism is defeated

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Not every strike in the battle has to be the winning blow.

[–] JB33@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

We did it! Great job everyone!

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of "cultural purity" beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

  1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid...

  2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago

there's no real difference between a true believer nazi and one doing it as a bit. or one going along with it for profits. they're all nazis.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder where she is now....

Awww. She's all grown up, and seemingly successful.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

TBF, Elon's cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn't efficient today, doesn't mean he isn't working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Let's repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I'm afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

The company being named Tesla seems pretty Edison.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

He's the new Henry Ford, but also, he's the new Henry Ford

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 126 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

β€œI heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

β€œSomeone said, β€˜Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

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[–] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 199 points 2 days ago (54 children)

Hur hur. I'd wish people would stop assigning hyper-competence to Nazis. They never were. Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 139 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Exactly this. My grandmother lived under the Nazis and she said they were fucking idiots. Exactly the same type of incompetent blowhards. The whole hyper scientific ubermensch BS in the cultural zeitgeist is so frustrating. I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

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