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The avocado, alligator pear or avocado pear (Persea americana) is an evergreen tree in the laurel family (Lauraceae). It is native to the Americas and was first domesticated in Mesoamerica more than 5,000 years ago. It was prized for its large and unusually oily fruit. The tree likely originated in the highlands bridging south-central Mexico and Guatemala. Avocado trees have a native growth range from Mexico to Costa Rica. Its fruit, sometimes also referred to as an alligator pear or avocado pear, is botanically a large berry containing a single large seed. Sequencing of its genome showed that the evolution of avocados was shaped by polyploidy events and that commercial varieties have a hybrid origin. Avocado trees are partly self-pollinating, and are often propagated through grafting to maintain consistent fruit output. Avocados are presently cultivated in the tropical and Mediterranean climates of many countries. Mexico is the world's leading producer of avocados as of 2020, supplying nearly 30% of the global harvest in that year.

The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. Depending on the cultivar, avocados have green, brown, purplish, or black skin, and may be pear-shaped, egg-shaped, or spherical. For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. The nutrient density and extremely high fat content of avocado flesh are useful to a variety of cuisines and are often eaten to enrich vegetarian diets.

In major production regions like Chile, Mexico and California the water demands of avocado farms place strain on local resources. Avocado production is also implicated in other externalities, including deforestation and human rights concerns associated with the partial control of their production in Mexico by organized crime. Global warming is expected to result in significant changes to the suitable growing zones for avocados, and place additional pressures on the locales in which they are produced due to heat waves and drought.

Taxonomy and evolution

The genus Persea to which the avocado belongs is considered to have a North American origin, with Persea suggested to have diversified in Central America during the Pleistocene epoch. The modern avocado is thought to have speciated from other Persea during the Pleistocene, estimated at around either 1.3 million or 430,000 years ago. A number of authors, including Connie Barlow in her 2001 book The Ghosts of Evolution, have speculated that the avocado is an "evolutionary anachronism" with megafaunal dispersal syndrome (a concept originally proposed in the 1980s by Paul S. Martin and Daniel H. Janzen[30]), arguing that the avocado likely coevolved dispersal of its large seed by now-extinct megafauna. Barlow proposed that the dispersers included the gomphothere (elephant relative) Cuvieronius, as well as ground sloths, toxodontids, and glyptodonts.

Etymology

The word avocado comes from the Spanish aguacate, which derives from the Nahuatl (Mexican) word āhuacatl [aːˈwakat͡ɬ], which goes back to the proto-Aztecan *pa:wa. In Molina's Nahuatl dictionary "auacatl" is given also as the translation for compañón "testicle", and this has been taken up in popular culture where a frequent claim is that testicle was the word's original meaning. This is not the case, as the original meaning can be reconstructed as "avocado" – rather the word seems to have been used in Nahuatl as a euphemism for "testicle".

In Central American, Caribbean Spanish-speaking countries, and Spain it is known by the Mexican Spanish name aguacate, while South American Spanish-speaking countries Argentina, Chile, Perú and Uruguay use a Quechua-derived word, palta. The Nahuatl āhuacatl can be compounded with other words, as in ahuacamolli, meaning avocado soup or sauce, from which the Spanish word guacamole derives.

Cultivation

Domestication, leading to genetically distinct cultivars, possibly originated in the Tehuacan Valley in the state of Puebla, Mexico. There is evidence for three possible separate domestications of the avocado, resulting in the currently recognized Guatemalan (quilaoacatl), Mexican (aoacatl) and West Indian (tlacacolaocatl) landraces. The Guatemalan and Mexican and landraces originated in the highlands of those countries, while the West Indian landrace is a lowland variety that ranges from Guatemala, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador to Peru, achieving a wide range through human agency before the arrival of the Europeans. The three separate landraces were most likely to have already intermingled[a] in pre-Columbian America and were described in the Florentine Codex. As a result of artificial selection, the fruit and correspondingly the seeds of cultivated avocados became considerably larger relative to their earlier wild forebears millennia before the Columbian exchange.

The earliest residents of northern coastal Peru were living in temporary camps in an ancient wetland and eating avocados, along with chilies, mollusks, sharks, birds, and sea lions. The oldest discovery of an avocado pit comes from Coxcatlan Cave, dating from around 9,000 to 10,000 years ago. The avocado tree also has a long history of cultivation in Central and South America, likely beginning as early as 5,000 BC. A water jar shaped like an avocado, dating to AD 900, was discovered in the pre-Inca city of Chan Chan.

Production

In 2020, world production of avocados was 8.1 million tonnes, led by Mexico with 30% (2.4 million tonnes) of the total (table). Other major producers were Colombia, Dominican Republic, Peru, and Indonesia, together producing 35% of the world total. Despite market effects of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, volume production of avocados in Mexico increased by 40% over 2019 levels.

In 2018, the US Department of Agriculture estimated that 231,028 hectares (570,880 acres) in total were under cultivation for avocado production in Mexico, a 6% increase over the previous year, and that 2 million tonnes would be exported. The Mexican state of Michoacán is the world leader in avocado production, accounting for 80% of all Mexican output. Most Mexican growers produce the Hass variety due to its longer shelf life for shipping and high demand among consumers.

Market

Seventy-six percent of Mexico's avocado exports go to the United States, with the free trade agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico in July 2020 facilitating avocado shipments within the North American free trade zone.

Culinary

The fruit of horticultural cultivars has a markedly higher fat content than most other fruit, mostly monounsaturated fat, and as such serves as an important staple in the diet of consumers who have limited access to other fatty foods (high-fat meats and fish, dairy products). Having a high smoke point, avocado oil is expensive compared to common salad and cooking oils, and is mostly used for salads or dips.

A ripe avocado yields to gentle pressure when held in the palm of the hand and squeezed. The flesh is prone to enzymatic browning, quickly turning brown after exposure to air. To prevent this, lime or lemon juice can be added to avocados after peeling.

It is used in both savory and sweet dishes, though in many countries not for both. The avocado is common in vegetarian cuisine as a substitute for meats in sandwiches and salads because of its high fat content.

Generally, avocado is served raw, though some cultivars, including the common 'Hass', can be cooked for a short time without becoming bitter. The flesh of some avocados may be rendered inedible by heat. Prolonged cooking induces this chemical reaction in all cultivars

It is used as the base for the Mexican dip known as guacamole, as well as a spread on corn tortillas or toast, served with spices. Avocado is a primary ingredient in avocado soup. Avocado slices are frequently added to hamburgers and tortas and is a key ingredient in California rolls and other makizushi ("maki", or rolled sushi).

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[–] someone@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I'm a little late on this one. A person who's entertainment advice I trust had recommended I watch "Harley Quinn: A Very Problematic Valentine's Day Special". So last night I had some good gummies and watched it. It was my kind of weird. My jaw was on the floor most of the time. I couldn't believe what they got away with. I loved it start to finish. Betty, as a fellow kinkster in the exact same career situation I totally understand you.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the funniest thing to me is, the wackos who were supposed to be the easy layup to stay in power are the ones fucking up the US imperialism project

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[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

oh yeah, it's fall asleep face down on my desk time

[–] President_Obama@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is there a ban appeal type thing where I can ask mods to un-remove a comment of mine

Cuz I had a comment of mine be removed weeks/months after I made it, which made me think the mod did it on accident, and it was a rally funny comment in context. It was about cute guys ofc. The comment in quesjton. The post asked for "hot takes".

reference to something sexualAs you can glean from the replies, it was about how cute it is when a guy gets a boner and tries to hide it from me, getting all flustered — but that I don't think it counts as sexual attraction.

And then I realised after posting the comment that it was the music comm. And OP meant music hot takes.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's the point in banning Deepseek now? OpenAI can copy it, but anyone can now too, there's no money to make in it now. I guess they can try improving the model, but the Billions spent aint coming back.

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[–] dinklesplein@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

no sportsball comm to post this in but that luka to LA trade would be fucking absurd if its real lmao

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

oh fuck im craving pizza and i extremely don't want to make or order that shit

time to seek out a campus event with free pizza like the world's most choosy parasite

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[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I want a Google glass so I can doom scroll without looking down all the time. I feel like that has to be bad for my neck

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[–] President_Obama@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well the Lakers are obviously left with a huge hole on defense without AD, so how about they just trade Bronny for Wemby? Why the hell not? They just get handed MVP superstars once or twice a decade, so what's another one?

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The Mavs are really trading Luka Doncic to the Lakers for Anthony Daviscapitaldcolon

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[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Most art is good

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What if singular jedi is called jedius soviet-hmm

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[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I always thought of avocados as large olives, like if olives were bigger, tougher skin and a different color they would essentially be like avocados

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[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

They closed down the tamales to go place omw to work ooooooooooooooh

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You ever have some thoughts you can barely connect together and can't make a comprehensive post about?

Nsfw idea about smuggling

spoilerI watched a boy boy video where the one guy shoves a flash drive up his ass because he's afraid of it being confiscated and later takes it out and smells it.

You can put in an internal aka female condom in your vagina hours before sex and the ring keeps it inside. In theory you could keep one of those in (i don't think you can put them in your ass with the ring) if you think you might have to smuggle something inside you and it'll get less dirty and there's less risk of infection for you.

That's assuming they don't check your cavities first though

[–] Woly@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I keep accidentally clicking one of the giant grok buttons and it keeps incorrectly explaining jokes to me. Was it trained on blue check replies?

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love these slime monsters in FF4

They have so many pallete swaps of them. And they ran through the thesaurus for it. You end up fighting jellies, flans, custards, all kinds.

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[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Imo tears for fears mad world is 100% better than gary jules version

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[–] Sol_Tradguy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

rewatched Lost Highway for the first time in about a decade and that shit is fire. i was a little too crossfaded by the end so i want to rewatch the last like 15-20 mins. very confusing but i think the kind of thing where looking for a literal explanation really isn't the point? (same could be said for mullholand drive to a lesser extent, i think that one has a generally accepted explanation for what's literally goin on though)

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

We've got a couple more days of formal mediation for our new collective bargaining agreement, we've been without a contract close to a year. With the tarrifs on, if the offer is the same as last time or a little better I have a feeling people will agree to whatever the offer is just to avoid the additional economic pain.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Was watching a Chris Farley sketch someone showed me and I think it’s the first time I’ve ever laughed hard at an SNL sketch. Makes me wish I’d actually watched it when he was on.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Finally had a negative test for covid, but I'm kind of worried about the long term now. When I got it two years ago I took a while to recover my stamina. I'm also not entirely sure its from having had it that time, but sometimes it feels like stress and anxiety put more of a physical strain on me than it had before. Could just be in my mind, of course. Now that I've had it a second time it feels like its another chance to pick up more long covid symptoms and I really didn't want to take that chance.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

After discovering a plethora of AI-thumbnail youtube videos discussing the truth that dinosaurs are not real, it is clear to me at last that my mistake all along was in assuming that humans are not dumb as hell

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That Frirish MWoG regular is obsessed with me, even directly explaining why they didn't post me in an unrelated MWoG post because it would be "too easy." Like, it borders on obssessive. Rent-free.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

@WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net we do a little perfect victory Dooley here as well (in ranked)

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[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

things are never ever going to get easier or better. i dont think i would have the energy to live a normal life thirty years ago before the working class got squeezed into nothing, and i certainly don't have the energy for it now

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