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[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 63 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All companies want open standards and regulation of the big players when they’re small. All companies want high barriers to entry and regulation of the small players when they’re big.

All companies want what is best for them. In that matter, they differ very little from people.

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 8 months ago

Corporations are people didn't you know?

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 14 points 8 months ago

Not in the country I live, luckily.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

Don't worry. The US will fix that.

[-] reric88@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

America, fk yeah, coming again to save the mother fkn day, yeah

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 8 months ago
[-] Paradachshund 1 points 8 months ago

The difference is in their amount of leverage.

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I used to give Google money for services (Drive and YouTube), but I've already stopped doing that because of their evil ways. This just hammers it home that much more.

Edit: The shitty part is what a cool company it used to be. And to watch it destroy itself like this is just sad.

[-] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 44 points 8 months ago

This is my biggest complaint. They were the best way to access the sum of all human knowledge. Now I NEVER find things relevant to my search, just things that can be sold to me. Things like the “-“ character no longer work. I still get the excluded term in top results. It garbage now and everyone at google is to blame not just the executives.

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 months ago

I took my money from YouTube and started giving it to Kagi. 🙂👍

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 51 points 8 months ago

This is the year of enshittification, isn't it? Damn every company has pushed the pedal to the metal on it

[-] tVxUHF@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

It's because interest rates went up and the free VC money tap was turned off so all these companies have to actually turn a profit, so they're squeezing us with every lever they control.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

The cat's out of the bag. Gotta grab everything before folks try to stop them.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It definitely feels like a transition period for the whole Internet. Tech platforms finally reached their maximum user potential and scale, so now it's time to turn the screws.

They all think we need them, so now we figure out if they're right.

[-] grooving@lemmy.studio 2 points 8 months ago

They weren't. Source: time traveler from the future

[-] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 47 points 8 months ago

Honestly, this is about what I expect from Google nowadays. It's surprising when they manage to live up to the "Don't be Evil" motto they used to have.

[-] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 30 points 8 months ago

There's a reason they got rid of that motto.

[-] dan@upvote.au 9 points 8 months ago

They never got rid of it though. I don't understand why people keep repeating this. See the final paragraph here: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

[-] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago

They might as well have though 🙃

[-] Quexotic@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago

don't be evil and if you see something, speak up

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+whistleblower+fired

Oh really Google?

[-] Jummit@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's double speak. The translation is "We are evil and if you say something about what you see, we will silence you.".

[-] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Wait, that's the government's stance also.

[-] Jummit@lemmy.one 2 points 8 months ago

Are you beginning to see things more clearly now?

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[-] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They removed it from the main body as like, an organizing principle. and left it in only one sentence at the end. https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 8 months ago

Sure, that's different to totally removing it though.

[-] Luke_Fartnocker@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I heard several news stories stating that they had, but I guess that's my fault for believing the news. I just assumed they would get something right eventually.

[-] arthur@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago

Expect this and they killing some of their products.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago

It's-not-corruption-if-it's-law approach?

[-] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 35 points 8 months ago

It’s a form of regulatory capture and is taught is all business schools.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

At this point what they learn in business schools is the full bestiary of legal and illegal tricks and scams you can use to extract money from us cattle and contribute as little as possible to the upkeep :(

[-] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 26 points 8 months ago

Regulatory capture seems about on par for Google these days. I suppose I'll be switching back to OnePlus for Android devices; that'll be about it for Google stuff in my home.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 19 points 8 months ago
[-] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Suddenly, I miss the old days of Android. I suppose it's back to CyanogenMod or whatever it is these days

[-] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago
[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Direct replacement for Cyanogen would be Lineage. There are dozens of decent ROMs to try though.

I still opted for iOS in the end. As much shit as Apple pulls, they did 6 year software updates when only flagship Androids got 3 and they aren't generally trying to dominate the Internet.

[-] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

Nobody outside a select few know the real dirt inside the proprietary code that Apple puts out. Open source is the only truth that you can see for yourself. Apple is the antithesis of open source.

[-] winky88@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Open source is only as useful as the contributors and reviewers. Finding things after the fact helps noone.

People need to stop revering open source as the solution to humanity's problems and treat it as a useful tool, nothing more.

[-] Siddhartha-Aurelius@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

You’re right.

I like to peruse code and have read a lot of it from the sources that make it available. It’s not always the languages I know but even then I can get the idea of what most of it is doing. There are some code bases that are too big for any one person to fully comprehend. That said, I think the only way for one to be confident in open source is to read it yourself which is a problem for most as coding knowledge is not common combine with the size of some.

So it’s always going to be trusting trust for most people. The fact that it is open source and makes available the code for review limits malice to a much greater degree than proprietary ever will.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

You are correct it is only a tool, sadly it is the only viable tool tho

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Running it now it is great.

[-] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 months ago
[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago

Everyone seems to be missing an obvious detail- there was a related and even more dangerous piece of legislation reintroduced recently. It's known as the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), and that would have immense impacts on Google's (specifically, YouTube's) operations.

This is an example of them trying to claim the other bill isn't needed, because they can self-regulate. You'll notice how this also purports to protect kids, but in a way that is much easier and cheaper for Google to implement.

[-] vriska1@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Its deeply worrying development seeing Google came out with the narrative saying they are against mandated age verification while secretly saying they do support it atleast that what I get from this article.

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