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Donald Trump reiterated his claim that Canada would be better as the U.S.’s 51st state, citing trade imbalances and lower taxes.

He also announced new 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, including from Canada, despite a recent 30-day reprieve.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau has not formally responded, but a government source said they await official confirmation.

Trump criticized Canada’s defense spending and border security, despite recent Canadian commitments.

Canada previously retaliated against similar tariffs in 2018 before a 2019 trade deal resolved the dispute.

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[–] rxbudian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Canada can make sure that Democrats win the election from then on

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Stop giving this foolishness air.

Make preparations on the side. But Stop giving it public attention.

also understand that Canada would never be a state. It would be a generation or two of Forceful and violent assimilation before any region was given "statehood". For everyone else, it's poverty, military occupation, and slavery. Which would mean Insurgency and War.

Any Canadian advocating for this is either terminally online and uneducated, living life off article title opinions. Or they are functionally a traitor/quisling/5th columnist and a threat to their neighbors, and should kept an eye of. And if things really did go "there". they'd be the ones taken out first by resistance.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Dementia is a persnickety business

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

and it is his cherished state

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

He can’t even cherish California, what makes anyone believe him?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

He's too busy banning paper straws and taking away his enemies security clearances to annex Canada.

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I thought conservatives couldn’t afford eggs?

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

also scruples

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would Canada join the US, only to be rewarded with a shitty health care system and a low national minimum wage?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Elon Musk and the nazi sad boys will just dig up cases, where chain smokers having lung cancer getting treatment, etc. In Hungary, some try to divert the anger created by the constant defunding of healthcare (some of which was done by diverting money into building football stadiums "to encourage children to do sports thus be healthy") to the sick and the disabled...

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

I unapologetically woke up this morning hoping to read that someone took a successful shot at him during the Superbowl.

Put me on whatever list you wish.

[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

I'm sure he's enjoying saying that fucking 51st state line over and over like an asshole spraying a cat with water for his own amusement.

That said, I don't think he realizes how much people in Canada are pissed and united right now.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

At this point I refuse to believe this is real life. We are in a simulation run by shitty AI

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

not the "I have no mouth and I must scream" future, just the "I have a mouth and I must groan" present

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 2 points 17 hours ago

AM.....AMerica

[–] Skrootz@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

I'm actually thinking Elmo boy is a shitty AI from the future coming back to in time to secure its existence

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This just The Boys season 5.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

needs more eye lasers

that feeling is called dissociation btw

[–] ubergeek 61 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think he seriously under-estimates how many Americans will side with Canada, with force.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

I can imagine we'd end up with a bigger army than the US if Canadian service guaranteed citizenship

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Live close to the border. If I see Canadian tanks rolling through my town, I'm throwing them flowers

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[–] towelie@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

He also hasn't considered the destruction that 30 million occupied dissidents (from a country known for their prolific war crimes) can unleash on their oppressor.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's in it for Canada? Expensive ineffective healthcare? Why would they go for this?

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

Reduced quality of life? Greater danger of being shot in a school? Shorter life expectancy? Lower quality food? And imperial president instead of a democratic one?

I'm not seeing the upsides for Canada.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Don’t forget the gun violence

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This man shits worthless click bait out of his mouth daily, why does media fall for it?

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 hours ago

When the leader of the world's largest superpower dreams of Anschluss of their otherwise allied neighbour, that's not clickbait, it's the state of international policy and diplomacy with the leader the US elected.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fall for it? They're grateful he's made their job insanely easy. They used yo have to investigate things and then risk running afoul of the powerful. Now they just have to print whatever the latest outrageous bullshit comes out of Donald's mouth and reap the clicks and ad dollars.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 18 hours ago

All the while ignoring all the terrible things being done by Republicans.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

He doesn’t treat his own states any good why would Canada fare any better

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This plan leaves out the fact that the majority of Canadians don't want to join. They may have their challenges right now, but there are some things they aren't willing to give up, like nationalized health care and national identity. I suspect many Canadians will fight to the death over this, the same way Americans would fight if forced to join Canada. They are our neighbors and that's about as close as people want to get.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Hey, uh, if he wants another state…

What about Puerto Rico?

I'd love to hear the excuse against that vs. Greenland and Canada.

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[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

How would a whole country be a single state? Wouldn't it become 13 states (or however many provinces/territories Canada has)?

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 24 points 1 day ago

No no, that would give too many senators to people who understand the value of universal healthcare. Can’t have that.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 218 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (42 children)

Most of us would rather die than ever become an American. Want a good example of the mood in Canada summed up against our 'ally to the south' as of late? Well let me just personally put it this way. You, the United States, are a fucking joke.

To quote an author, Stephen Marche, who spoke on the CBC here in Canada recently... The bold is mine but the emphasis really should be placed there anyway.

They've [The US] come off of 70 years of failed wars of occuption. One thing you have to understand about these comments is that they come from a profound weakness that America is really unfamiliar with. And Canada is unfamiliar with America being this weak. They can't hold Baghdad, I'm not sure why they think they can hold Montreal. But they're also being kicked out of Niger and you know they are weaker than they've ever been in a lot of ways. They are extremely fragile as a country. They have absolutely no solidarity, they have absolutely no unity. They are in the middle of dismantling their administrative state and war is a is a test, fundamentally, of the strength of the administrative state. So I think you should take this about as seriously as you would take the ramblings of a crack addict on the subway. I.e, you pay attention to it and get out of the way and you do what you can but, you know, this is not something to be treated like an actual... this is not something to be thought about. It's just the ramblings of lunacy.

[...]

I think he's [Trump] actually managed to make Canadians patriotic for the first time since I can remember. You have to say, he's the president of the United States but the United States is crumbling. Institutions are falling apart and 'Who the United States is at this moment'... that's not a meaningful phrase. You have to ask yourself which America are you talking about, which institutions are you talking about, because they are not under the guidance of anyone, right?

[...]

All he [Trump] can do is destroy. The American stock market is falling, even the threat of this [tarrifs on Canadian goods] has caused inflation to raise it's head. The American people fired everyone who has caused gas prices to rise almost immediately. They can tolerate almost anything from their political class. War crimes, whatever, but increase gas prices they go crazy for. So it's just very important to understand that this is spoken from a position of profound weakness.

[...]

America has never been an uglier place to become a part of. I mean who would wanna be American at this point in history. They're about to start killing each other. There is no question that there is a Canadian rejection of American values, the American government and Amreica itself. Why wouldn't you reject these people? They're awful.

Watch it for yourself here.

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