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I'm so absolutely sick of it.

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[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's always ethical to pirate from Adobe.

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[–] DagonPie@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago

As someone that had to deal with adobe for 5 years for an 800 person studio. Fuck Adobe. For the rest of forever.

[–] smigao@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I signed up for creative cloud and accidentally signed for a year. They want 60$ to cancel the subscription. Suck my taint.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Unlike most online services that essentially do not offer refunds (you just ride out the subscription), Adobe has created more of a carrier type plan, where there is a yearly contract so it accrues the same penalty like any phone plan.

So yeah, legal. Just the worst kind of legal. And that’s Adobe. Just the worst kind.

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[–] thetoastmonster@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think Adobe is bad just wait until you have to deal with Autodesk.

[–] robotopera@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I managed to drag my audit out for months by just playing an absolute idiot and telling them all my licenses can be found by logging in at autodesk.com and then giving them excruciatingly detailed instructions on how to get to the administration page.

[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

They're both bad

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox is getting the ability to edit PDFs. Its not quite ready for prod so I use SumatraPDF

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Foxit is great too

[–] techietechtecherson@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey adobe, how about you stop contacting everyone in our organization using a single non-profit license of a single product and telling them we should all be on a single cloud account so we can pay several times more for the same thing just to get access to sharing services no one wants?

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Ah yes true sysadmin energy in this post

[–] neonred@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

A friend of mine is about to be interested in digital photography and is soon going to commit on a photo finishing suite. She already attended some courses and - of course - the mayority of those had users of and applications from Adobe, usually Lightroom and Co.

I know Adobe is scum (fuck Adobe), she knows Adobe is "bad". I think I could steer her into free and/or open source or one-time-pay software but for this I have to have an alternative that is a viable substitute, especially to Lightroom.

As for alternatives I know of Darktable, Capture One, Affinity Photo and RawTherapee.

Any more recommendations? Or an opinion on these or other products?

Thanks for your help!

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Darktable is the closest, but it’s still missing a ton of features that are basic in Lightroom.

Lightroom and Photoshop are unfortunately good products with shitty licensing.

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[–] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I use and love Affinity. Back on v1 I used RawTherapee to do the initial conversion, then AP for the "photoshop part".. but in v2 the raw conversion in AP is pretty good, so I just use that for my whole workflow.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just one reason why 2013 was basically the worst year ever. I'll never forgive or forget what Adobe had done that year. It's just insane.

[–] Shazbot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the beginning of the subscription apocalypse that masked a 50% increase to annual cost behind a "cheaper monthly charge". While I miss my time as a photographer, I'll never miss Adobe.

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[–] warlaan@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you had a look at the Affinity suite? It certainly can't replace everything, but for many users like me it's not really missing anything for a one time payment.

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 8 points 1 year ago

They have -30% sales sometimes. I actually bought the whole suite at 50% discount some years back, but I don't think they've had another 50% discount for a long time now.

If you're interested in any of the Affinity programs, keep an eye out for sales. I'm guessing the next one will be Black Friday / Cyber Monday.

Fuck Adobe.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

If you’re some dude who edits photos for his kids or makes bday cards for their family, there’s literally a dozen or more free image editors that work just fine.

If you’re in the industry, then you’ll quickly see no client will accept or work with an affinity file. Or a gimp file. Or a photomater file.

Adobe is the de facto standard and their monopoly is only getting worse. It also doesn’t help that schools are basically shills for Adobe. So every kid comes out knowing Illustrator and Photoshop and nothing else.

Adobe’s monopoly extends far beyond “software.”

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our company is using nitro pro for editing PDF.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate that people try to edit PDFs.

There's a hundred formats more suited to editing.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's very common in the medical and legal analyst fields. There's a lot of scanned paper in those industries.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Scans are just rasterized images. There are many formats more suitable for scanning and then editing, and some of them are even embedded inside PDF.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ugh. You just reminded me of the time I asked for a CSV file from a customer and got a .doc file.

Inside it was a screenshot of the CSV file opened in Excel.

I was just impressed that somebody could misuse so much software so badly.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I've still never recovered from the time I asked someone for a screenshot of an error they were getting and they literally printed their screen, circled the error, scanned it with our copier, then copied and pasted that into a Word document and attached that document to a reply email.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

GIMP, Da Vinci Resolve, Blender

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

GIMP is painfully behind the times that I only use it out of sympathy for FOSS. I even prefer Photopea despite half the working area wasted on ads and browser UI.

Maybe that'll change one day.

[–] minyakcurry@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every single time Adobe is mentioned, everyone rushes to mention GIMP. I'm convinced 90% of them have never even opened GIMP before.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because ten years ago GIMP was a good alternative to whatever version of Photoshop was out at the time. So those people ditched PS and used GIMP. But now Adobe has pumped tons of features into PS that the GIMP crowd doesn't even know about, so they still think the two are still comparable.

I still use GIMP exclusively but I'd be lying if I said watching others use Photoshop didn't make me jealous.

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[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been able to steer 2 companies and my own business to adobe alternatives. Fuck, paying rent on software.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The CEO of Adobe (Shantanu Narayen) is a greedy bastard.

[–] nephs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He's just a tool, though. The problem is capitalism, and in this instance, the expectation of intinite growth.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Expensive as hell, it insists I use their insecure office add on “PDF Maker” but people around here find it worth $350 a year to be able to merge pdf’s from the context menu so I’m stuck trying to find ways to support it with out compromising the network. I hate the adobe suite

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I use pdfsam to merge pdfs. Open source and works fine.

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[–] spyd4r@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I want is Lightroom classic for photo organization and I have to subscribe. Like come on.

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[–] calypsopub@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still using Photoshop 2003. It does what I need.

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I literally just wanted to esign a document the other day, and in order to get the functionality I wanted ONE TIME, I had to create an account, give them my credit card info for a free trial, let Acrobat Reader download all the other functionality I didn't need, which took 10 minutes. The program crashed, buttons didn't work, it didn't save the first time.

I fucking hate Adobe.

What's a good PDF editor that does e-signatures that I don't have to pay a long-term subscription for? Foxit is nice, but requires a subscription.

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is exactly why I have been running the same Adobe software for the last, what, 15 years now? Whatever the last one was before they changed to a subscription model, that's the one I have.

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