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    [–] Zacryon@feddit.org 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It's really ironic and embarassing. The most valuable chip manufacturer in the world, thanks to advances in AI and AI research, which is usually done using Linux systems. And yet Nvidia still sucks hard when it comes to Linux support.

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Nvidia graphics support.

    Their money is in headless systems, which TBF are much less problematic with Nvidia. Anything CUDA is first class on Linux with Windows as an afterthought.

    [–] Drathro@dormi.zone 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    1000% on the money here. You want encode, decode, calculation, acceleration? They got it. Rock solid, beautiful and simple. You want that shit to actually SHOW UP ON SCREEN? Get the fuck outta here. What do you think nVidia is, a GRAPHICS CARD company!?

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

    You want that shit to actually SHOW UP ON SCREEN? Get the fuck outta here. What do you think nVidia is, a GRAPHICS CARD company!?

    I pray for no blackscreen after every update, and I'm not even using it! It's hooked up to an AMD IGP!

    CUDA always works though, lol.

    [–] Zacryon@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

    Anything CUDA is first class on Linux with Windows as an afterthought

    Not in my experience.

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    [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

    I wouldn't call their Windows support stellar, either. There's only one error code for any and all problems and RTXes can be damn finicky if you're unlucky.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

    Latest kernel, wayland, NVIDIA dGPU greater than RTX 900, latest proprietary NVIDIA driver and correct vulkan packages for said driver:

    Don’t see any issues, really

    What does not work?

    Maybe some install steam and choose wrong vulkan dependency πŸ€”

    Or have vulkan dependency for nouveau installed prior to switching to nvidia drivers

    I just wonder why pacman not automatically chooses the correct dependency πŸ˜… but I am sure there is a reason

    [–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    This is why I don't update Nvidia drivers unless there's a fix I need. If it's stable, that's all I want.

    [–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Until the GPU cooks itself anyway, because nvidia can't admit their new power connector was a mistake.

    [–] Schmuppes 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Seems to be less about the connector, but more about load balancing. The German guy who had 150Β°C connectors at the PSU side also measured current draws. One cable was doing 22 A (so almost half of the 5090's total consumption) while the other ~~7~~ five were just chilling.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 12 points 1 week ago

    Nvidia connected all six cables like they were one and have no way to measure or balance the load across all six.
    They used to do load balancing on the 30 series, treating it as 3 cables basically (3x2 cables).

    [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    That's true, but once my apartment is on fire, I don't really care if it was the cable or the connector.

    My insurance might be interested, though.

    [–] Schmuppes 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You're never gonna push the technological envelope with that attitude, bro.

    That's fine.

    [–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

    How about both?

    I'd expect the design to take into account this kind of issue, they're only one of the most valuable companies in the world, surely they can afford some QA.

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

    Surely that's fixed by now, right? SURELY

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago

    Don't worry, Nvidia got you covered: it also likes to occasionally break with kernel updates.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Some people "I don't care why it doesn't work, it's Linux's fault!"

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Not just some..

    They should just buy a PC build for linux with it preinstalled

    Like, tuxedo, system67(or whatever number they have) or I think framework is available like that as well.

    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Except all those Linux specific privacy/modularbility orientated PCs are expensive as hell with base models starting close to 1k last I checked. They're aimed at the demographic of cushy tech nerds making bank tapping at a keyboard who care about opsec or right to repair and can comfortably afford dropping 1k on a new laptop without thinking twice about if that money has better uses.

    I and many others who don't live in economic lah-lah land will NEVER be able to justify 1k spent on a laptop just because it has physical kill switches or modular parts and preloaded with a good Linux distro. These companies need to touch grass and come down a couple hundred dollars to the 400-500$ range then we can talk. Until that day comes, the guy selling librebooted thinkpads on eBay running popos or mint is the better option for those who live with the reality of not having a lot of money.

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    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Its not just Linux. NVIDIA sucks on windows too, but those PCMR types aren't willing to admit it.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    They're the ATI drivers of this century.

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    [–] traches@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I don’t buy nvidia for this exact reason. No amount of performance matters if the drivers are broken

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    What does not work for you? And which nvidia GPU?

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    [–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Yeah, I had to exchange my laptop for another one with an AMD GPU because Wayland was so broken, and I was getting serious input lag in games, even on X11.

    And this was a few months ago. NVK worked a bit better, but compatibility wasn't great, and performance was about 50% of the proprietary driver.

    [–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    How? I have a 4060ti and it works well enough on wayland

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Which distro? You perhaps lucked out so far. Anyone using Linux for multiple years can attest for the trash that are Nvidia drivers, especially once you compare it to AMD (who, outside of professional applications, usually don't need any driver install or setup at all).

    [–] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I'm not that person but I impulse switched to Garuda (Arch-based) around 8 months ago with a 3080 and everything has just worked, the only thing I've had problems with is flatpak being the bane of my existence

    [–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

    Yeah same, 4070 ti super on garuda, no issues.

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    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I haven't had any problems on Linux Mint with a 3060 Ti aside from some artifacting when I try to do screen recordings (unless I disable flipping).

    EDIT: I've had that GPU for about 2 years. I had a 1050 Ti for about 4 years before that.

    Actually now that I think about it an update did break my graphics at one point, but that might've been partially my fault. I just reverted and reinstalled the same update right after though, and that worked just fine, so it wasn't a huge deal.

    Overall I would say its been more than 10 years since I've had an actual major graphics issue (having to open xorg.conf).

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    [–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Just upgraded my EndeavourOS (Arch btw) and saw Nvidia driver update. Reboot, KDE came up successfully, OK, good. Play game, stuttering right on the title screen. πŸ˜‘

    From my idiot troubleshooting with Nvidia in the past, I disable "Allow screen tearing in fullscreen windows." Test, runs perfectly now. The funny thing is that I had to enable that option in the past to make the same stuttering go away. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

    Someone suggested maybe that option doesn't matter and I just had to start the game multiple times because of shader cache? IDK, but I do know that my next card will be AMD.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Modern Proton versions should compile shaders beforehand, I know what you describe from when it had to do it in realtime. If it happens again try clearing the Shader Cache in the Steam Settings or switch to a newer Proton version.

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    [–] 1luv8008135@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Fk me. I just saw an Nvidia package in my apt upgrade. Am I going to be screwed ?

    [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago

    No, just upgraded from a working computer to an up to date not working computer.

    Timeshift time

    [–] zippythezigzag@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I'm wanting to switch my gaming PC to mint from Windows. I'm new to Linux, that's why I'm going with mint. What GPU should I buy for my use? (RTX is not important to me. I just need it to play my games well)

    [–] Darorad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If you already have one, just try that, see if it works.

    You'll probably be fine with anything, NVidia's gotten to work well over the last year or two. If you want to be safe any AMD card should work well.

    I'd just buy the best used AMD card in your budget.

    [–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I had a ton of trouble getting my R9 390 working on Linux, so ymmv

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    [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

    I have a RTX 3050 mobile with Intel cpu laptop. So far... Everything works fine on fedora and arch. I haven't installed Debian based on it however

    [–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I know mint is often said to be the friendly new distro.
    I've heard good things about Bazzite. Like really good things.

    I'm currently running Endeavour OS. As soon as I get a chance, I'm planning on checking out Bazzite.

    If you are going in fresh, I think Bazzite is something to try for a week or so.

    [–] Drathro@dormi.zone 3 points 1 week ago

    I can vouch for Bazzite and always will as long as they keep up the solid work. Running on a laptop (gnome variant for easier fingerprint login) and desktop (KDE, cuz I just prefer KDE day to day). It just worksℒ️.

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    [–] _____@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    RX 9070 when it comes out, Mint is good but there are so many good options. I suggest using cachyos and trying out all the DEs so you pick something you like. Although you don't have to stick with CachyOS if you don't want to.

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    [–] Kaigyo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The best thing I ever did was configure prime offloading so basically everything but games runs on my integrated graphics.

    Still borked my graphics a few times setting that up, but I'm on nixos so it wasn't a big deal.

    But before:

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