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Codeberg responds to hate attacks (blog.codeberg.org)

submitted 6 months ago by petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 6 months ago

We need such statements now more than ever. Thank you Codeberg <3

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 44 points 6 months ago

You can all put your money where your mouth is: https://donate.codeberg.org/

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 22 points 6 months ago

https://donate.codeberg.org/

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I checked my spam folder and there it was. And the entire height of chud humor was just a slur. Nothing else, not even a lengthy queerphobic screed, just a slur and that was all.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

not even just a slur, it was slur balls

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Oh that's what the email my brother received about.

[+] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world -58 points 6 months ago (5 children)

A complete non-issue. This was not "hate", it was spam. I received the offending email this morning, deleted it and moved on. The whole episode took up two seconds of my life and was forgotten within another two. Except for the waste of another 4 seconds dealing with Codeberg's inevitable grovelling apology a few hours later.

Stop giving in to provocation! This kind of histrionic response is exactly what the spammers were looking for. It doesn't matter what rude words were in this email. It was spam.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

First off: hate and spam aren’t mutually exclusive, it can be both. Especially when, after reading the linked article, it’s pretty clear that this isn’t an isolated case of one email going out.

But more importantly: hate is never a non-issue; you may not have been bothered but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have an impact on other’s lives. Tolerating hate is so very dangerously close to acceptance here and we as a society simply can’t allow that to become normal.

Codeberg taking the time to tell us that this was wrong and they don’t tolerate their systems being used to spread hate is good.

[+] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world -30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

We will agree to disagree. Despite your obviously good intentions I think you, and they, are making this problem worse. By validating it and propagating the (quite novel) idea that somehow we can be almost physically harmed by mere words and must therefore be on constant guard against them. I respect people's right to think this way but personally I don't want any part of it.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“Words aren’t dangerous” is one of the greatest misnomers of all time. Words have, repeatedly throughout human history, demonstrably been the catalyst for action.

Normalizing hate speech is a signal that hate itself can be normal. Hate speech has become violence so many times that I can not fathom not understanding that words have real power.

Regarding who may be making the problem worse, I’ll let a better spoken man field a response: “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 months ago

[–] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This ^ ^ ^ is what privilege looks like.

[–] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

No balls go tell your employer Hitler was right and you personally fucked a dog last night.

Trust me bro these words won't hurt you, their kinetic energy is like in the milijoules at worst.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Some people mind. 🤷‍♂️ You do realize more people other than yourself exist in the world, right?

I personally couldn't care less. But I also recognize that CodeBerg has every right to police their own platform in whichever way they see fit. If they don't want this kind of shit on their platform because their users disagree with it, then all the more power to them.

Honestly lil bro, you lack emotional intelligence.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Honestly lil bro, you lack emotional intelligence.

That was the personal insult. It was unnecessary and I'm not sure why you figure you needed to say that.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just because it's not hate against you does not make it not hate, you privileged little you.

First they came for the Communists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me

[–] paequ2 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol! Not sure what message you got, but if it's anything like mine, let's test this.

Post the message you got in your company's general Slack channel.

If you get fired, it's a hate message. Else, it's spam.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago

I get your point and generally agree but it's not a non-issue.
I think the general gist is that if you don't react to words, actions will follow.
And, historically, the pen has always been mightier than the sword.