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This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

What can we do?

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[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It's depressing how many top level comments or replies are about how people like that there is a technical barrier gatekeeping lemmy. Are yall actually leftists or do you just pretend to be while worshipping your own version of social hierarchy in which us nerds are on top?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 240 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Why is “drama” on Lemmy always highly exaggerated by people?

“Endless wars of who federates with who”. What is that person even talking about and who the fuck would even care as a normal user?

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Been using Lemmy for a couple of years, not seen this once.

Also, the ux is pretty much the same as Reddit.

These people are just stakeholders in Reddit. They are afraid of change, or losing any rep they have. They sit on a pile of useless upvotes.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people that think the UX is different from reddit weren't on reddit 14 years ago when it did look very similar to this.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Really early on like right after the API fuckfest, there was a large influx of users who picked servers based on whatever. As a result, servers defederated and there was a lot of drama as a result.

Though that said I haven't heard much about defederating in some time.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 132 points 1 week ago (13 children)

it feels like old reddit

Wait, when did that become a bad thing? I exclusively browsed old.reddit.com because the new layout is a fucking abomination.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 123 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (28 children)

Greenleaf is pretty massively exaggerating about the extent of defederation, as only a handful ever get defederated regularly, certainly not enough to call it 'wars'.

As for UX, there's definitely room for lots of improvements, especially in making it easier to explore another instances local communities from within your own insinstance without explicitly subbing to them all or using lemmyverse.net.

But I don't think the very concept of different instances is truly a barrier or bad UX, that other user is just giving lazy excuses for not switching away from Reddit.

If that was a legitimate issue, MMO's (which also often have servers the player needs to choose) wouldn't have the userbase they do. Nor would Email have taken off.

Even if Lemmy was one big simple centralized server, that user would just come up with another reason they couldn't switch.

"Oh, it's too small, my niche communities aren't there"

"The UI isn't as nice"

"The mod tools aren't as good"

Etc.

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[–] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (15 children)

This is why email never caught on. Who wants to choose between Gmail, Yahoo, MSN, Proton, and Comcast? A successful email service would be one where you can only communicate with users of the same email service. /s

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[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"but it feels like old reddit". My god, imagine actively preferring the new reddit UI. Let them keep their shiny jangling keys instead of coming over here and pestering the devs for a snoovatar feature or whatever nonsense.

The 'maybe read for 2 minutes to figure it out' miniscule barrier to entry is a feature not a bug.

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 69 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Potential hot take: Do we even want the majority of people here?

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 59 points 1 week ago (46 children)

Joining is a bad experience. "Please commit now to a server on this service you know nothing about... Then you can try it out!" I understand the concept of decentralization, but it's ass-backwards...

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