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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 3 days ago

Hey, hey, hey, you all remember when it was called out years ago that the west would do exactly this and lame it all on Ukraine when they lost? Do you?

Cause I fucking do.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ukraine finding out that kissinger wasnt joking when he said being americas ally is fatal.

[–] Rextreff@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Henry didn't say this, he meant it as a hypothetical

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then the hypothetical has proven to be correct.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mean he said as a prediction "{by the way things are going, people will think} to be America's enemy is dangerous but to be America's ally is fatal"

[–] Rextreff@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 days ago

oh yea you're right

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Pure uncut copium. What do you mean our actions have consequences!? That RFK Jr. quote at the end really brings it home.

“Vladimir Putin has a black heart. He clearly has Stalin’s taste for blood.”

LMao

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Stalin being a vampire is a new one, they didn't mention that in victims of communism™.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who among us doesn't enjoy draining fascists of their blood? Can anyone really blame Stalin for his behaviour?

The only vampire who would want to even drink that stuff would be the one addicted to meth.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Not at all lmao

[–] MelianPretext@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Given that Thiel supposedly injects himself with Gen Z blood, coming from that crowd, it was probably meant as a compliment.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 days ago
[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The headline is absolutely false. What trump really said is that it is Ukraine's fault they aren't being included in negotiations.

At Mar-a-Lago, he also tried to reinvent the facts around Russia’s invasion three years ago, when Putin’s forces rolled across the border of an independent, sovereign democracy and redrew the map of Europe.

“Today I heard, ‘Oh well, we weren’t invited,’” the president said, referring to Ukraine’s complaints that it’s not been allowed to take part in the nascent peace process. “Well, you been there for three years. You should’ve ended it after three years. You should’ve never started it. You could’ve made a deal,” he said.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It seems the reporting on this changed throughout the day but at the moment I posted this I saw several news sources (some of which in my own language) claim what the title claimed. Guess you can really never trust them.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe I've just gotten more careful but it feels like the blatant lying in news has gotten worse since trump first said "Fake News" back in 2017.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Trump’s attack on Zelensky, who was hailed as a hero in the United States for resisting Russia’s Blitzkrieg on Kyiv early in the war

Was he? I mean by the media, yes, but was he that popular amongst the population?

While recent surveys have shown Zelensky’s popularity dropping significantly from the almost universal approval he enjoyed at the start of the war, it’s nowhere near the depths cited by Trump.

Would you be so kind as to link the surveys or state the numbers?

In essence, the president seems to be suggesting that the Ukrainians should have made an agreement with Russia to avoid the invasion — which, in practice, would have involved submitting to a puppet government in Kyiv loyal to Moscow or simply giving up fighting to hand a win to Putin.

Interesting how the actual demand (no NATO) of the russian government is ignored.

Trump’s response to the Saudi talks, which he said on Tuesday could be followed by an in-person meeting with Putin by the end of the month, risked redoubling what was already a victory for the Russian side.

Libs and their obsession with symbolic "victories".

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Russia’s Blitzkrieg

Imagine using this phrase on purpose

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

these people unironically believe that Hitler and Stalin worked together to conquer Europe and that the US joined the war to single-handedly stop them both.

[–] thepeoplesinging@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In school they taught us that the Soviet Union was buddies with Nazi Germany until the Nazis betrayed them partway through the war, at which point they reluctantly joined the Allies who reluctantly accepted them. I have seen on here and Hexbear that this is not an accurate history.

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Hints of this lies are from the fact that Britain and France were helping Hitler take more land until Hitler make a non-aggression pact with Stalin, that the Western European diaspora hailed Hitler as the leading Liberal figure and participated in Nazi German Olympic, and that Britain and France turn down Stalin's call for fight against Nazi German despite the fact that Britian and France have the industrized economy and lesser need for post-war recovery to fight against Fascism.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago

Again another subtle comparison between Russia and Nazi Fucking Germany. I can’t with these people.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 days ago

This is an oped presented as news. A bit dishonest by CNN but by no means below them.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ukraine just got told they started this whole debacle, and you're laughing?

[–] LeniX@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 days ago

All those pillows and blankets from Obama came in real handy for that, eh?