Oh I didnβt realize felons in prison wielded so much power. This orange motherfucker is gonna rot.
this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2023
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I wish I shared your optimism.
Look at the Speaker votes. To agree on someone they had to pick someone that even most congress people hadn't even heard of. Like a day after he won maga is mad at him for calling George Floyd a victim and already wanting to kick him out despite him supporting Trump's insurrection
MAGA demands candidates agree with them 110%, non magas want to go back to passive evil that has plausible deniability. They're both incredibly stubborn and while they won't vote D, they'll stay home or protest vote if it's not their favorite candidate. If Trump is the candidate a significant amount of non trump Republicans won't vote for him. If it's anyone besides trump, the magas will still vote trump or just stay home.
On the democratic side a lot of voters really dont want Biden as their president, but will vote for him just to not get a Republican.
It's a shitty political situation, but it's unlikely to result in trump as president again.
I hope you're right. First time he ran it was also "unlikely" he would win.
I hope y'all yanks are smart enough to go vote against Don Cheetos. Don't fuck over the rest of us because of your own lazyness
If the off-election two years ago is any indication, the 'pubs are doomed. Presidential terms are 4 years but we hold elections for Congress every 2. The last one was in 2022 where everyone was predicting a "red wave" because usually the opposition to the party in the white house makes massive gains. The Republicans and their supporters were expecting to gain a majority in the Senate and they lost seats instead. They gained a majority in the house but only by a very slim margin. Definitely not the super majority they were expecting. This is unheard of in our nation's history and it's because the Republicans activated negative turnout. More and more people are becoming more interested in politics and it's not because they like the Democrats, but because they really hate Republicans right now. You can thank SCOTUS taking away abortion rights for that. What little support women had for the Republicans is long gone after that decision. Don't trust the polls or the Twitter spammers. The 'pubs are entering the dark ages and it's all their doing.
I really hope you're right. I'll believe you on Jan 6 2025(?)when you swear in your next president
Hope y'all end up with someone a bit younger than Biden though. While I have no issue with his presidency, I do have an issue with his age. Ppl above 75 (or even 65, or whatever the local retirement age is) should not be in politics anywhere imo.
Why won't the democrats support a moderate republican speaker? This way they could rob the extremists in the republican party of all power. It's not like they'll get a democratic speaker atm anyway.
...and then a bunch of MAGA-controlled gerrymandered swing states will invalidate their popular votes based on fictional voter fraud and try to send MAGA electors again, resulting in civil war 2.0.
Don't be so cynical. Even SCOTUS forced Alabama to re-draw their maps. There's only so much that the right can do to undermine everyone else's authority.
If Trump goes free, let alone become president again, the rest of the world will lose all respect to the US and start finding alternatives that are more stable.
What respect? We wouldn't be surprised if you elected a dog as a president, you already had way worse.
How would he have the power to do that in 2024? Even if he won the election, he wouldn't take office until 2025. What the fuck is this headline?
Jee who else would really like for US to leave NATO I wonder
Somebody must be Putin him up to it.
All of the tankies on lemmy π€π€π€
This is really Putins last chance for a victory over ukraine.
So sad it relies on this
Do not negotiate with fascists. The guy is going to move the goal posts ad infinitum.
Heβd first have to get elected President and then obtain a time machine to go back to 2024.
"If"
It's cute that journalists think that Trump wouldn't pull out of NATO if other members of NATO met his demands.
Donald Trump is quite literally going to die in either state or Federal custody. His fate was sealed the moment he told the National Archives "No".
And when he told Saudi and Russian spies " Yes "
At a time where our allies are seriously considering getting along more with China and others, this is a terrible, terrible idea for U.S. foreign relations. People seem to think the U.S. can stand alone. Nope.
It does explain why the EU doesn't want to outright shut the door on China. The U.S. right now is acting like a bipolar person off their meds. One term they're reasonable and rational, the next they're throwing shit at the wall and talking about leaving their allies out to dry.
Nobody thinks the US can stand alone. Traitors want the US to fail.
So they can try to take over, I suppose.
Could be a great opportunity to boost European defence.
Time to replace US military bases by European ones, and time for France to look more at east and for Poland to look more at south
No country in Europe can agree, nor afford to do everything the US currently does across the globe and especially across Europe. It would be an actual shit show what you are saying you want to happen.
Has to happen at some point, though. Why not now.
True. But then we sink or swim.
Not while the EU isn't federated and a single fascist like Orban can blockade the capacity to act.
Also, it's too expensive. The US can afford it because they don't really pay for it: as the USD is the reserve currency of everyone else, and as oil is traded in USD, everyone pays for their military through inflation. The Euro isn't in the same position.
Bullshit clickbait. The orange fascist will go to jail and do nothing.