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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

That was crazy

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 50 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

"Democracy dies on live TV" - wow that headline hits hard.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

First time i read it I thought it says "Democracy dies on live TV"... not far from it i guess...

[–] Kurroth@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

"US chances at..."

Need to be added to the start. As if other countries aren't somehow capable is such an USamericanism.

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[–] mdurell@lemmy.world 77 points 6 hours ago (5 children)
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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 72 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There can be absolutely zero doubt that Trump is a Russian stooge

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn't have to be Russian stooge to be evil, and to behave like one too

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

I just saw an ad for G20, a fiction where some terrorists kidnap all the leaders of the G20 at the meeting. But don't worry, the US president frees herself, and she's going full Liam Neeson to free everyone and get revenge.

LOL completely unbelievable

What would instead happen with the US president that is in charge now: if you free me I will help you with all your requests and I will personally execute the hostages

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[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 53 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think "tried to bully Zelensky" would have been a little more accurate. Of course Trump and Vance failed at that too. All they're good at is manipulating the most stupid people on the planet. If I was morally depraved, I bet I could do it pretty easily too.

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[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what it can be, but every ounce of me hates both of these men. I don't even want to call them men. I can't think of a possible way that they could suffer and feel the emotion of helplessness and sorrow. Whatever would happen, I don't think they'd care. They literally wouldn't care - because they have the mindset that they are invincible and can have whatever they want.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think Tolkien has words for the corrupted, the lesser beings that are greedy agressive morons, "orcs"

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I would say they are more like ringwraiths - twisted shadows of men bound to a larger evil, Putin.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

remember you guys. peace day 1! trump never lies

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 6 hours ago

This is genuinely one of the stupidest things I've seen. We all are used the the bar getting lower and lower but lordy it just accelerated.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm ready to protest this shit. Tell me when and where to show up, my local big city or state capital. This is some bullshit. Trump and Vance are egotistical dickheads. Ukraine are our allies! Imagine George Washington doing this with Marquis de Lafayette, or FDR with Churchill!! Unspeakable!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine is a US ally. Trump is a Russian ally. Of course he would attack his adversary.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 10 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Bro have you been in a coma? The US is now taking the side of Russia, North Korea, Iran and China. Our alliances with the free west are dead.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's kinda what they said.

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[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 135 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Why would any nation that does not have nukes not start making nukes right now?

The USA has shown over and over, it's the only thing we take seriously. We don't give a fuck until you have nukes. We don't care about treaties, alliances, deals. We only care if you can start the nuke wars. Anything else is just "how can we take advantage of you?"

Also .. World, I understand you're not reading this, but for the three of ya that do, boycott us. Tariff the shit out of us. You got this, and thanks for all the fish.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Unfortunately Ukraine was part of the Budapest Memorandum. With this they gave up their nuclear armament in an agreement that "prohibited Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom and France from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations."

So they gave up their nukes with the agreement that they would be safe from these 4 groups. However that didn't do shit for them, thus a huge reason why any SeasFire would have to have some big security backing. As Russia has ignored all prior agreements.

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 33 points 7 hours ago (14 children)

As much as this makes me hate Donald Trump more than I already did, which was already more than I hate almost anyone, the really horrific thing is that a decent fraction of Americans will look at this and think Trump made the right decision, or at least a brave, or reasonable, decision.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The only brave man in that room was zelensky.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 75 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

"Peace deal" means surrender now, don't join NATO, and get invaded again in a few years.

TBH idk how Zelenskyy thought things would go any differently.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 62 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt he thought it would go differently. But he did an amazing job showing the world how utterly depraved Trump and Vance are. There can be no question now that they are Putin stooges. The United States lost the cold war, Putin won without firing a single bullet. It is out in the open.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

He probably fired quite a few bullets, but I get you.

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