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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 21 hours ago

This has been a constant problem with this monument and will continue to be a constant problem because of its premise.

Tear it down and build something else.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How big would the “Victims of Capitalism” monument be?

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

"Nooooo you can't blame all these work related accidents on capitalism!!! They were isolated cases caused by specific companies!!!" - some dude I debated on Facebook, circa 2014

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It will have roughly a diameter of 12'700 km.

[–] drgnfckr@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At this point isn't this monument just a blatant anti-communist propaganda piece? If the people this monument honors are Nazis, then maybe building it at all was not a good idea.

Imagine if they try to save the monument and replace it with one with no names on it. Lol.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 3 points 6 hours ago

It is explicitly anti-communist, but you must understand that until quite recently that was something that in and of itself was celebrated. You gotta look into the red scares. For a long time, those in power have made "communist" and "socialist" basically synonymous with "genocidal authoritarian".

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Victims of communism was created by the CIA to spread anti communist propaganda. There are few if any facts in any of their ridiculous statements.

The only real victims of communism were Nazis, kings, and people that aided those groups. Any monument with random names from 'victims' will only realistically have Nazis on it.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

The only real victims of communism ....

That is 100% false. In the German Democratic Republic people got killed for trying to get out. Victims of communism as an organisation is bullshit, but there is no need to act as if there weren't some people who seriously died unfairly.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

There were plenty of gay victims of (USSR) communism.

Of course, I'm sure the monuments these conservatives love don't have any of those names

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don’t they also count Soviet abortions as “victims of communism”?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the people this monument honors are Nazis,

One name of a Nazi collaborator was found there. It's absolutely ridiculous to leap from that to "this is a monument honoring Nazis."

Millions of people were killed by Stalin. It's little wonder that a few objectionable names might be scattered among them.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Millions of people were killed by Stalin

Ok, but was Stalin a communist? Because the USSR sure as hell didn't seem like a classless, stateless society

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least one of them was killed for collaborating with nazis. Why did Stalin kill the rest of them?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cause Stalin was an autocratic douchebag who used people for his own power games?

Doesn't really have a whole lot to do with communism, though.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Citing the CIA as a source is fucking hilarious but no amount of explaining would help you understand why.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So there was more than one autocrat in charge? Like... some sort of... oligarchy or something?

You need more than a dozen or so "leaders" for communism... or, to be accurate, you need none.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago

Those leaders were all elected, as were all but the lowest level of the communist party. Nearly every communist party is structured this way.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Boy, tankies will pull out everything to defend an authoritarian regime that killed millions.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out lots of nazis [collaborators] are victims of comunism

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah its technically correct lol

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't read the article because of their goddamn newsletter signup form that they won't allow me to close! 😵

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Use addon like noscript it blocks all that stuff some websites break but you can disable it

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s a button : not now

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is all I see in Firefox, Brave, or Edge:

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks. I'm able to view the article through that link. That stupid bright cyan newsletter box is still at the top, and I still can't close it, but it doesn't get in the way of the article. LOL

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This should be higher. That was a conservative pet project, they suggest the names which give to things to think about 1- they’re fucking idiots that don’t know how to make research and thus shouldn’t be leading anything 2- they’re fine glorifying Nazi

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

Porque no los dos?

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Shit, that's all of them

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